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134 | 54.47% |
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86 | 34.96% |
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26 | 10.57% |
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As far as the card return, the explanation sounds plausible to me. I don't think it was a case of buyer's remorse. That's just my $.02 |
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I am of the mind that he should stay, but how about clipping those frickin' nails, guy?????
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funny but agree
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This is not the same Mathew I referred to in my other post. I vote we let him stay. Others have done WAY worse without being banned. |
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After hearing his side and seeing all the deals he's already made with long time members, I voted No. I still believe some BST restriction should be implemented.
Matthew must realize that some may still be skeptical of dealing with him in the future if he is allowed back on the BST. |
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I originally voted that he should be banned, but after reading his post I'm more willing to let him stay.
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Both of these mistakes are certainly plausible/understandable, so I vote that we let him stay.
He should also rebuy that card now that we know there are no issues with the holder, and pay for the shipping back to him.
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I voted to ban early on and would like to change that vote. Also, can someone add some backstory about the Wagner pic. Very interested.
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Folks then proceeded to photoshop him with everything from the Mona Lisa to who knows what else. It was damn funny. I just tried to find the thread but to no avail - can someone better than me at searching on here find it?? |
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The Nun's Wagner https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=163800 |
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Interesting! Amazing how people rush to judgement without knowing all the facts, or being initially presented with only one side/version of a story.
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I'm just kind of disappointed to find out Bobby Strawberry isn't someone's real name.
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So buyer upon registration didn't want to enter his personal info. Seems reasonable and I wonder what a full member audit would show, no idea what I entered when joining. Suspect that data is not very accurate.
Continuing, buyer is a good member for a few years, posts under his real name and has consummated multiple deals. Thinks a slab is compromised and agrees to a return with seller. Seller, on last inspection, realizes it is actually tape. Instead of reaching out to buyer, contacts forum host to have buyer banned. Seller doesn't look great here IMO. Last edited by japhi; 03-02-2022 at 09:26 PM. |
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I say let him back. The explanation provided seems plausible and I can understand the hesitance to provide any personal information to sign up for a bulletin board.
If "Dave" is good with this and Matthew has provided the real information required to sign up for the board, then call it square and let it be a lesson learned that Matthew realizes that this board is legit. Just curious, who was the player in the slab?
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I, too, believe in second chances, but there’s nothing wrong with a conditional return. On the one hand, he’s expressed seemingly genuine interest in returning to our community and demonstrated some measure of humility by contacting Leon directly with hat in hand. A certified scumbag grifter likely would’ve abstained from returning to the scene of the crime, particularly to face added scrutiny over their actions. Conversely, I am no fan of cold-feet buyers who cavalierly welch on deals. Had the upstanding seller been in a jam and needed those funds to meet his liabilities, the result would have been far worse.
If, through your good graces, you decided to allow him to reenter this community, I think it might be wise to do so on a probationary level. He’d definitely need some measure of rehabilitation before partaking of the BST boards. Assuming he fully understands the ramifications of what he’s done thus far, the bottom line is that he actually wants to be here to socialize with others and, as many of us do, receive updates on this magnificent hobby. The last two years have been extraordinarily rough in terms of our social interaction and so these boards may be his only meaningful connection to like-minded enthusiasts. If you see fit to allow reentry, make sure it’s known that he’ll live and die in your shadow. Some of my most loyal soldiers, and now employees, were those whom I dared to offer a second chance. Just my .02, for what it’s worth. Jared, |
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LOL, the irony. This member has been on my list of banned members for a while now...
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Anyone with two working eyes can clearly see the case isn't cracked. I once had someone on Amazon initiate a return because the case was cracked. Obviously the CD was fine, and those cheap cases can be replaced rather easily. Amazon sided with the buyer. I asked the Amazon rep, if I bought a pair of shoes, and the box they came in was damaged could I get a refund? Basically she said I could. The buyers have WAYYYYYYY too much power these days. In this instance, the buyer was being a hardass, and I wouldn't want to sell to him.
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Based on what I read I voted to reinstate.
A. It's very plausible that not listing his name on the registration was a simple mistake, especially considering the persons name was listed under their ID. B. While mistaking tape for a crack is definitely a boneheaded move, the fact that the buyer offered to make good on the deal makes me believe that there was no ill intent intended. Just my $0.02. |
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