New Ebay Authentication service

[Kris19]

Update:
The seller mailed the card on Monday. Today, I received the following email from eBay

Hi Kris,
Our authentication partner received your item from the seller but, unfortunately, it didn’t pass inspection. We assess items covered by Authenticity Guarantee against the highest standards, and reject items for a variety of reasons, including damaged packaging, missing accessories, not matching the seller’s description, or an inability to confirm authenticity.

I also received a notice from PayPal stating I received a full refund.

So, from the day the seller finally mailed the card, it only took 4 days (and most of that was USPS). The success of the program will be determined over the long term, but in this case, they certainly met expectations.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Kris19

Update:
The seller mailed the card on Monday. Today, I received the following email from eBay

That is excellent. Thanks for running the test.

[swarmee]

Kris,
Can you check regularly to see if eBay removes the seller from their site? Wondering if 1 or multiple fakes being passed as real finally gets eBay to ban these fraudsters.

[Kris19]

Will do. Unfortunately, he sold four other fake cards to other buyers for under $750 shortly after I explained the program to him. I’m sure it was just a coincidence that he priced them under $750, although the value of the same legitimate card is much higher.

The good news is that he currently does not have any cards listed, just a few non-card items.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Kris19

Update:
The seller mailed the card on Monday. Today, I received the following email from eBay

Hi Kris,
Our authentication partner received your item from the seller but, unfortunately, it didn’t pass inspection. We assess items covered by Authenticity Guarantee against the highest standards, and reject items for a variety of reasons, including damaged packaging, missing accessories, not matching the seller’s description, or an inability to confirm authenticity.

I also received a notice from PayPal stating I received a full refund.

So, from the day the seller finally mailed the card, it only took 4 days (and most of that was USPS). The success of the program will be determined over the long term, but in this case, they certainly met expectations.

Kris, was the card you purchased something you expected to fail the authenticity check?

[Kris19]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Kris, was the card you purchased something you expected to fail the authenticity check?

Hi Jay! Yes, as I estimated in post #56 in this thread, I was 99.9% sure it was fake. Just wanted to test out the authentication program and timing.

[Sean1125]

Thought this might be pertinent to add...

They literally didn't tape the box that they sent. Just closed lid with a label. Anyone along the way could have opened it. Luckily everything arrived in tact.

[Rich Klein]

I just saw on twitter that someone is claiming the new threshold is $500. If so, more cards to be done that way.

Rich

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

I just saw on twitter that someone is claiming the new threshold is $500. If so, more cards to be done that way.

Rich

If true, it apparently hasn't caused any change to existing listings yet. A card I am watching is priced at $580 and there is nothing on the listing about it getting authenticated.

[Exhibitman]

I just got a PM on eBay from eBay stating the threshold is now $500 for ungraded cards. No sign so far of them hitting my graded stuff.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by jayshum

If true, it apparently hasn't caused any change to existing listings yet. A card I am watching is priced at $580 and there is nothing on the listing about it getting authenticated.

The same card I was watching and commented on a few hours ago now does show the Authenticity Guarantee on the listing so looks like updates are happening.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

Thought this might be pertinent to add...

They literally didn't tape the box that they sent. Just closed lid with a label. Anyone along the way could have opened it. Luckily everything arrived in tact.

I call bullshit unless you have pics to prove it. Not saying it couldn't happen, people make mistakes and perhaps someone forgot to tape one box, but this obviously isn't standard practice, and I see no reason to believe you without evidence.

[sb1]

Ebay is slowly implementing this new "service", they will probably keep gradually lowering the $ amount and then implement their fee as people become used to the process. I don't believe there is a way to opt out, you will at one point be required to use the service on even lower dollar cards and pay for it....

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by sb1

Ebay is slowly implementing this new "service", they will probably keep gradually lowering the $ amount and then implement their fee as people become used to the process. I don't believe there is a way to opt out, you will at one point be required to use the service on even lower dollar cards and pay for it....

Any sales from 3/1 on, FVF are going up to 12.9%.


https://pages.ebay.com/seller-center...es-update.html

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Snowman

I call bullshit unless you have pics to prove it. Not saying it couldn't happen, people make mistakes and perhaps someone forgot to tape one box, but this obviously isn't standard practice, and I see no reason to believe you without evidence.

Shows picture of un-taped box.

"You removed the tape from the box"

Why would he lie about something as ambiguous as that?

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Shows picture of un-taped box.

"You removed the tape from the box"

Why would he lie about something as ambiguous as that?

First off, people in this hobby lie all the time. The blowhard forums are chock-full of absolute nonsense. But even absent of intentional mistruths, what I run into more often in this community usually amounts to simple incompetence. Someone reads something that someone else posted and twists it into something it isn't because they lack reading comprehension skills or critical thinking skills, and then they repost it, others gobble it up, and next thing you know people start spouting out nonsense and every believes it. I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out that this "no tape" claim is someone who read some post on Blowhard where someone posted a picture of their eBay certified box, then someone else commented, "why is there no tape on that box?" (meanwhile, it was there all along, just on the back corner that isn't pictured) and next thing you know, all the eBay haters and TPG haters jump in and pile on with the "See! They don't even tape the boxes! I told you this was going to be a joke!". This shit happens ALL THE TIME. So, like I said. Sure, it's plausible. But I have no reason to believe this without evidence.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

Thought this might be pertinent to add...

They literally didn't tape the box that they sent. Just closed lid with a label. Anyone along the way could have opened it. Luckily everything arrived in tact.

Was this a box you received, Sean?

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

Thought this might be pertinent to add...

They literally didn't tape the box that they sent. Just closed lid with a label. Anyone along the way could have opened it. Luckily everything arrived in tact.

I don't want to be a Richard, but the word is intact. It is not two words. I see people on this site regularly misspell the word. If it arrived in tact does that mean it arrived in a tasteful manner?

There may be one loophole around this authenticity issue that the handwringers have not mentioned. Increase your postage. If you have an item that you would sell for $500 and ship for $10, raise the postage to $35 and sell for $475. Sure, the FVF will still be high, but you then avoid extra hands on the item and delays in getting it to the buyer.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

Thought this might be pertinent to add...

They literally didn't tape the box that they sent. Just closed lid with a label. Anyone along the way could have opened it. Luckily everything arrived in tact.

LOL. Just close the box, we are good..........that's funny.
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[Jim65]

My card was delivered to the Authenticater yesterday afternoon, got an email this morning saying the card was authenticated and mailed to the buyer. Less than 24 hours.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Jim65

My card was delivered to the Authenticater yesterday afternoon, got an email this morning saying the card was authenticated and mailed to the buyer. Less than 24 hours.

Is it a 1951 Diamond Stars?

[Clutch-Hitter]

Originally Posted by Jim65

My card was delivered to the Authenticater yesterday afternoon, got an email this morning saying the card was authenticated and mailed to the buyer. Less than 24 hours.

+1
Sold a card requiring their review. It was authenticated and mailed to buyer approximately 1 day from when they received.