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Old 02-11-2022, 12:14 PM
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I agree it makes little sense, but yes, they may figure they will pay more than a slabbed 8 because they are only out grading fees if it comes back an 8, and they have a chance at a better grade and thus a possible payday.

His scans are top notch, but I have a pretty good eye for grading, at least to my satisfaction, and I generally see slight corner touches, edge wear or other slight issues that make me shake my head when I see his sold prices and think someone believes they had a good shot at a 9 (or even 8 oftentimes).
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Old 02-11-2022, 01:35 PM
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My theory has always been in situations such as this that the winner (and underbidders) are regular winners and subsequent submitters. In other words, through experience they have confidence this card will grade high enough to yield a profit as they have repeatably completed this process successfully.

Personally, I don't feel the card will come back as a 9, certainly not a 10. A 9 would yield a few hundred dollars in profit though.
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It doesn't matter how much we theorize about the possible motivations behind overpaying so much for that card, because in the end we are always left with the same simple conclusion. No one has a frickin' clue why anybody does anything.
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It doesn't matter how much we theorize about the possible motivations behind overpaying so much for that card, because in the end we are always left with the same simple conclusion. No one has a frickin' clue why anybody does anything.
Unless they say so. In law school I took a class on appellate law with former CA Supreme Court Justice Sullivan. The hands-down best aspect of the class was that he would tell us exactly what the thinking was behind the scenes at the time when the opinions we studied were written. He'd often answer questions about an opinion from his tenure on the court with: "when Chief Justice Traynor and I were discussing the case..."

But I digress...

There are a lot of buyers who bake a grading premium into a raw card price even though the chance of getting that grade are slim.

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Unless they say so. In law school I took a class on appellate law with former CA Supreme Court Justice Sullivan. The hands-down best aspect of the class was that he would tell us exactly what the thinking was behind the scenes at the time when the opinions we studied were written. He'd often answer questions about an opinion from his tenure on the court with: "when Chief Justice Traynor and I were discussing the case..."

But I digress...

There are a lot of buyers who bake a grading premium into a raw card price even though the chance of getting that grade are slim.

And I would often wonder when studying the "attractive nuisance" cases whether Justice Traynor was related to Pie Traynor.

...kind of explains my class standing...and also why I am on these boards
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And I would often wonder when studying the "attractive nuisance" cases whether Justice Traynor was related to Pie Traynor.

...kind of explains my class standing...and also why I am on these boards
And we had a beautiful Annette Traynor in my law class--she was attractive and I was a nuisance.
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And we had a beautiful Annette Traynor in my law class--she was attractive and I was a nuisance.
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There are a lot of buyers who bake a grading premium into a raw card price even though the chance of getting that grade are slim.
....or a grader is buying it and already has committed to it being encapsulated. GM has a generous return policy so if it doesn't make the "grade" it gets returned for a full refund.
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Crack out some nice 7s and consign. Note your results
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I agree it makes little sense, but yes, they may figure they will pay more than a slabbed 8 because they are only out grading fees if it comes back an 8, and they have a chance at a better grade and thus a possible payday.

His scans are top notch, but I have a pretty good eye for grading, at least to my satisfaction, and I generally see slight corner touches, edge wear or other slight issues that make me shake my head when I see his sold prices and think someone believes they had a good shot at a 9 (or even 8 oftentimes).
Well there are some that will correct those issues.
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