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Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but one potential positive of this new authentication service is that it at least requires that an actual physical card is being sold in the first place. Some of the fraudulent ebay listings that have been posted on Net54 recently have been for cards that were not even in the possession of the scammer. For example: https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=313780
One has to think that at the very least, even if ebay is not great at detecting a fake, that these types of listings go away completely. Last edited by cgjackson222; 02-01-2022 at 05:02 PM. |
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They already have stickers, that is just as silly as a slab for a slab.
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I left a comment for a YouTube content creator; The Personal Finance Dad. I was pointing out the potential pitfalls of the eBay authentication service. To my amazement, eBay replied to my comment.
EDITED TO ADD: "...Authenticators will check to see if a card is altered..." So, there we have it.
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Thought I heard/read that eBay was destroying fakes...
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I heard this too but found it too crazy to believe.
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There must be some sort of a “trusted seller” exception - I’m seeing the same blue check mark with “Direct from Greg Morris” and “Direct from Dean’s Cards” on their listings.
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3 of these in the mail already. Hope it works out for the better
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Well, that didn't take long. I bet there was some $$ involved in that special treatment.
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I am sure this was probably brought up before but tonight is the first I have seen of this next to a listing..
Shop with confidence Authenticity Guarantee This item is verified by an authenticator before delivery. Free for a limited time. Final sale may apply. Learn more We knew it was always about money. It always is. **it looks like this service is for raw cards valued over 750....for a tiny fee I can see that not being too bad. I don't need it but I could see it, if I have to... .
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The seller made it home from Hawaii. I received an email from eBay this evening stating the seller mailed the card to the authenticator and I would be notified “…as soon as the authenticator finishes their inspection.” So, the clock has officially begun.
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The card I purchased with this new authentication requirement reached the authentication service in about a week and was inspected in one day and now shows a new tracking # has been assigned so it should be in my possession in 4 days or less. The whole process is going to be about two weeks from date of purchase to delivery. Much better than I expected.
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Well, I've been reading some posts on Blowout from some modern collectors that have received their "authenticated" cards already.
There are some alarming pictures of how the cards are being shipped in a pretty non-secure manner. In particular there is a rare Griffey that supposedly sold for $30,000+ and it arrived partially hanging out of a card saver that had been elastic banded to a cardboard holder. If that's real, it's pretty disappointing. Guess I better stick to buying any expensive cards already graded for now. |
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But even one or two instances of negligent packaging could sway public opinion and doom the service. Certain things can't be helped (slow postal service, unexpected back log, etc.). But professional, secure packaging on a $30,000 item is something that should be a given. Of course, anyone can post anything on a message board. It's possible it's not even true (maybe it's just a board eBay hater with nothing better to do). Also, who in the world buys a raw $30,000 card on eBay? That's a world I don't live in. |
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My experience with the new service. Bought this card on 1/30, shipped to authentication service on 1/31. Arrived at hub on 2/3, authenticated on 2/4, and in my hands on 2/7.
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It is like plane crashes. The press makes sure everyone hears about the plane that crashed and killed 250 people. However, not once do you hear them speak of the THOUSANDS of planes that landed safely that very same day, or any other day. I would guess the person on Blowhole is insignificant and wanted to get some attention by fanning the flames of mass hysteria.
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I guess ebay is just listing what the seller listed, which was 1951: https://www.ebay.com/itm/13400690492...p2047675.l2557 Last edited by cgjackson222; 02-10-2022 at 03:51 AM. |
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Sorry, but how does ebay/CSG know it was printed in 1951? It says the copyright is 1935 on the back of the card. Wasn't it just an incorrect description in the ebay listing that was then repeated during the Authentication process when they simply showed the original listing title? |
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Yeah, nice find! So its not like ebay is authenticating the listing description, which was incorrect, they are just saying the card itself is authentic.
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Doesn't this really beg the question of what is it ebay is authenticating? If it doesn't, it should. Ebay is just mimicking what was in the title, so what did they actually "authenticate"? I get that mistakes happen, but this isn't even close.
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I just want to know where to apply for this job. Christ, eBay is stepping into authentication and soon grading services.
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Exactly. Did the "authenticator" even look at the card? If CSG is the authenticator, this is a terrible look for them, too.
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I'm beyond annoyed that Ebay is doing this, but to be fair, I believe the spirit of the service is that they are authenticating that the card is actually what it is supposed to be. Pictures are there, we know what the card is SUPPOSED to be.
I don't think anybody wants Ebay/CSG to cancel the transaction and send the card back to the seller because there was a typo in the title/description. Unless you want Ebay to start charging "research" fees like other "authentication" companies, I think they are fine to stick with the title given. No need to complicate things further. It doesn't add any value to the card, like a traditional TPG service would. |
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The story nobody is discussing:
A card in a screwdown holder listed on eBay was actually authenitic.
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It is an interesting (and odd) test case, with the seller saying it is from 1951. What happens if the seller instead said 1915 or 1885? The seller describes it as being 1951 four times, so it's questionable that it's a typo. It appears the seller may have really believed it is from 1951.
It appears the authenticator is identifying if the card is original or reprint, which is a reasonable and good service that I like. It also appears to be working under the assumption that "anyone who's a collector knows the Diamond Stars are from the 1930s, not the 1950s," which is largely but not entirely true. However, authentic means the item matches the description and "1951" is way off. Technically speaking, a reprint is authentic if it's described as a reprint. It can be argued both ways, but I think authentication should correct such blatant description errors. A buyer may be a newbie who assumes that it's from 1951. It's also such an unusual, odd case that it may not be worth debating too much. Last edited by drcy; 02-10-2022 at 02:59 PM. |
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