New Ebay Authentication service

[BobC]

Originally Posted by jburl

From my perspective (as the person who bought the card), the authenticator didn't make a mistake. The person who listed the item title (which is the only thing that shows up on eBay) made an error. The "authenticator" verified that the card is, indeed, "authentic," meaning that it isn't a forgery. That's all I would expect out of the service, that I admittedly don't really want.

-Justin (Burl) Burleson

But then technically isn't the card "Not As Described" in the Ebay listing, and also not an authentic ""1951" Diamond Star card? I understand about a listing error/typo by the seller, but come on!!!!

And also, if you specifically bought the card raw so you could put it in a binder with the rest of set, how does that work with the screwdown holder and the guarantee seal/tape they put on the holder? So if you remove the card from the sealed holder the guarantee is gone? That really kind of sucks. But I guess for now it's no big deal as no one's paying for the authentication service..............yet!

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by BobC

...if you remove the card from the sealed holder the guarantee is gone? That really kind of sucks...

As far as I know, removing the card from its sealed holder would void any guarantee it might have had before removal. It's analogous to cracking a PSA/SGC card out of its case.

I mostly agree with this stance; however, I'm hopeful they'll make exceptions for cards sent (still sealed, of course) to third party graders.

Perhaps a cottage industry will spring forth wherein a bulk submitter will examine the eBay seal - before inspecting the card for authenticity - before removing the seal - before submitting the card to PSA. (nothing could possibly go wrong with that, right?)

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Eric72

As far as I know, removing the card from its sealed holder would void any guarantee it might have had before removal. It's analogous to cracking a PSA/SGC card out of its case.

I mostly agree with this stance; however, I'm hopeful they'll make exceptions for cards sent (still sealed, of course) to third party graders.

Perhaps a cottage industry will spring forth wherein a bulk submitter will examine the eBay seal - before inspecting the card for authenticity - before removing the seal - before submitting the card to PSA. (nothing could possibly go wrong with that, right?)

Hi Eric,

I understand about breaking something out of a holder would void a guarantee and so on. I was thinking more of the person that wants to put the raw card in a binder, or do something else with it. Also, wasn't that card being listed by the seller in that same screwdown holder on Ebay? So does that mean you get your card locked into whatever holder the seller sends it to the authentication company with? So what if the holder has scratches or glue/tape on it, or it's not in a rigid holder? You as the buyer apparently have no say/choice in the matter of how you then want to protect and display the card, unless you're willing to throw away the authenticity guarantee. My point is for now it may be okay because you're not paying for the authentication service, but once someone does have to start paying for it, I would think they may want to be able to retain that authenticity guarantee they are paying for, and also use/display the raw card they're also paying for, as they wish. Or is it possibly a calculated and well thought out move on the part of Ebay to make it so most buyers will want to break/remove the authenticity guarantee tape/seals, and thereby let Ebay off the guarantee going forward? They offer the service for free now, to test it out and then hopefully build up acceptance and desire by everyone to want it. And then later on start charging for it, thereby creating another Ebay revenue stream, but knowing at the same time that a very large portion of those using the service will most likely void the guarantee upon receipt of the card(s) by the buyer, and their breaking the card(s) out of whatever holder the seller originally put it/them in.

[Directly]

eBay has expanded the authenticity process to Graded cards over $2,000

[brianp-beme]

So they will give a seal of approval about the seal worthiness of a $2000+ graded card?

Brian

[Kaneen]

In the email I got today announcing this "service" is expanding, I found this line to be telling:

"No cost to you...eBay covers all the costs for a limited time"

Prepare to bend over.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Directly

eBay has expanded the authenticity process to Graded cards over $2,000

Yes. That is what we have been chatting about. I posted the link above.

[Exhibitman]

"eBay covers all the costs for a limited time."

Translation: get ready for a major new selling cost to be rammed up our oubliettes.

[Flintboy]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

"eBay covers all the costs for a limited time."

Translation: get ready for a major new selling cost to be rammed up our oubliettes.

For you yes, for the major sellers on EBay not so much. It won’t apply to them.

[Republicaninmass]

First experience....where is the card? Going to authenticator?

Almost 10 days already




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[tschock]

Originally Posted by BobC

But I guess for now it's no big deal as no one's paying for the authentication service..............yet!

Yeah, and in looking at the packaging that was involved, I seriously doubt it's going to be free for long. Someone's going to have to pay somehow at some time.