Why are they not playing baseball ?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

I guess everyone sees things differently. If I own a business, I can set my price on an item and set my salary wages. If it is not competitive with the business down the street I will go out of business. If the wages are poor , I will not have many employees etc. The market dictates. I think the owner should make these decisions and not the employees.

Your business doesn't have an anti-trust exemption...

[egri]

Baseball will survive, despite the best efforts of the people who run it.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Doubtless one thing we can all agree on is that Rob Manfred has no business being commissioner of a beer league, much less MLB.

[egri]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Doubtless one thing we can all agree on is that Rob Manfred has no business being commissioner of a beer league, much less MLB.

I didn't think we could have a worse commissioner than Selig, but Manfred has proved me wrong. Selig at least was a fan of the game.

[jingram058]

It's 100% on the players and the owners, 50/50. The whole thing is a pile of feces anymore. Too many TV commercials every half inning to pay those player salaries you're all so quick to defend, thus you can't shorten the length of a nine inning game enough to keep anyone interested. Stupid designated hitters, stadiums named after corporations, instant replays, four finger intentional walks, yada yada yada. Yeah, baseball is great, the players all ought make a trillion dollars and the owners are all greedy. BS.

[Fred]

Players want more pay to play a game that most would kill to play for free at that level.

Owners are getting tired of having to provide contracts for single players that is the GDP of some small nations.

No clue on a happy middle ground.

What would be cool is if players were paid a NICE minimum salary at the MLB level so that they are all rewarded for being in the show. Then figure a formula that pays all players at a rate that reflects their recent past production.

No way to get parity in the league because if you're in the Yankees or Dodgers system, you're in the land of moola. If you're in a small market then the money just isn't the same.

Believe me, I'm not against players making an incredible amount of money but when you think about it, just how many of them would turn down a $30M 5 year contract to play ball if the only other option was having to actually "work" for a living.

Owners should lower prices for fans. That would require players not asking for unbelievable pay days. Without fans the sport ain't shit. And neither is our card board.

In my eyes, they (players/owners) should take better care of the minor leaguers and consider the fans by making it affordable for the ordinary average guy.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by jingram058

It's 100% on the players and the owners, 50/50. The whole thing is a pile of feces anymore. Too many TV commercials every half inning to pay those player salaries you're all so quick to defend, thus you can't shorten the length of a nine inning game enough to keep anyone interested. Stupid designated hitters, stadiums named after corporations, instant replays, four finger intentional walks, yada yada yada. Yeah, baseball is great, the players all ought make a trillion dollars and the owners are all greedy. BS.

I'm too young to be a grouchy old fart, but I agree. I have no sympathy for whiny billionaire owners. And no sympathy for whiny millionaires who play a game and act like they are somehow oppressed by this system in which they are in the very top percentile of the most fortunate people on the planet while getting to earn it by playing a game. The increasing costs to watch a game that is less interesting with every year and increasingly becoming a limited outcome event (swing for dinger, or strikeout) is just not a good combination to me. I don't really watch games anymore, still love the history. It has always had its problems and there is no such thing as perfect balance, but watching millionaires cry every few years that they aren't paid enough to throw a baseball while they outearn 99%+ of Americans while living their dream is offputting.

[LincolnVT]

I heard that they were upset about cards being too expensive.

[Bigdaddy]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Your business doesn't have an anti-trust exemption...

Exactly. Things are changing in sports and they are going in the athletes' favor. Just ask the NCAA. It won't be long until the anti-trust exemption goes the way of the complete game pitcher.

Owners don't get to be billionaires by giving away their money. The players will have to pry it out of their fingers.

And to answer the OP: Will baseball season being delayed etc. effect the card collecting world ? Yep, and it ain't going to be in a positive way.

[shagrotn77]

I sure hope that '52 Mantle was a reprint!