And it's in, Ortiz has been elected to the Hall

[G1911]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Honestly, I realized nobody cares about steroids when Manny came back from his suspension to a hero's welcome. And to all the people who want to condemn the juicers and maybe-juicers, who want to make Bud and the owner pariahs, can I assume they stopped watching baseball in the late 90's? Because to blame the players and the union and the owners and the writers for doing nothing about steroids, but still going to games and buying the gear and all of that seems hypocritical to me. Fake stats or not, 1998 was an immensely enjoyable season to watch, and about the only person I can remember who cared about steroids then was Rick Reilly.

If nobody cared, Manny would not be sitting at a mere 28% of the vote.

I am agnostic on if steroids SHOULD or SHOULD NOT be a primary factor in the collective memory or hall elections. I have an opinion on blatant double standards and being logically consistent.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by G1911

If nobody cared, Manny would not be sitting at a mere 28% of the vote.

HOF voters and average, everyday baseball fans are two very mutually exclusive groups.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by BobC

HOF voters and average, everyday baseball fans are two very mutually exclusive groups.

Yes, I'm sure all the online discussion among fans the last quarter century is because nobody cares. The opinion that steroids should keep people out seems to be decreasing among "everyday fans", but that nobody cares seems to be clearly untrue. People sure talk a lot about something they don't care about.

[Republicaninmass]

Maybe we can have congress launch another investigation?

[Peter_Spaeth]

I think people care except if the player is on YOUR team, or if you for some other reason like him.

[doug.goodman]

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...cted-hall-fame