New Ebay Authentication service

[jayshum]

This listing has the Authenticity Guarantee indication. Odds it's authentic?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/32500646135...YAAOSwwC9h6Nfu

[iwantitiwinit]

Buying puts on ebay today this bs they are pulling is out of control. What happens when you send the card in for authentication, it's authenticated then gets lost when shipped from the authentication point to the buyer. Who is responsible? Also, no way they keep up with volumes, no way.

[hcv123]

I do not think this is a money grab. As has been highlighted by all the "Ebay outed auctions" of clear fakes here on Net 54 - fakes have proliferated for years with likely unsuspecting buyers getting burned. An authentication process for higher value cards makes a lot of sense in instilling confidence for buyers that they are not getting burned with a fake card and are covered if they do.

Questions, as have been raised in this thread, will have to be answered in practice over time - 1) timing - I imagine would be exponentially faster to deem authenticity rather than grade - caveat - does the authenticity guarantee no alterations and what is considered an alteration?
2) cost - time will tell 3) Is CSG the right choice or the new kid on the block willing to work for Ebay's offer to try to gain some market recognition.

For now, I like the concept.

Edited to add:

In reading through the FAQ's - I see 1 potential red herring - part of the "authentication" - they are going to match the card to the condition description:

https://pages.ebay.com/cardconditions/

and if those condition definitions are from CSG, then I have a clearer picture of why I will not touch their cards with a 10 foot pole!

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by hcv123

I do not think this is a money grab. As has been highlighted by all the "Ebay outed auctions" of clear fakes here on Net 54 - fakes have proliferated for years with likely unsuspecting buyers getting burned. An authentication process for higher value cards makes a lot of sense in instilling confidence for buyers that they are not getting burned with a fake card and are covered if they do.

Questions, as have been raised in this thread, will have to be answered in practice over time - 1) timing - I imagine would be exponentially faster to deem authenticity rather than grade - caveat - does the authenticity guarantee no alterations and what is considered an alteration?
2) cost - time will tell 3) Is CSG the right choice or the new kid on the block willing to work for Ebay's offer to try to gain some market recognition.

For now, I like the concept.

Edited to add:

In reading through the FAQ's - I see 1 potential red herring - part of the "authentication" - they are going to match the card to the condition description:

https://pages.ebay.com/cardconditions/

and if those condition definitions are from CSG, then I have a clearer picture of why I will not touch their cards with a 10 foot pole!

Well said Howard.

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[thatkidfromjerrymaguire]

Originally Posted by jayshum

This listing has the Authenticity Guarantee indication. Odds it's authentic?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/32500646135...YAAOSwwC9h6Nfu

Oh boy, interesting find Jay. That seller has few other dubious looking listings as well (a couple 52 bowman mantles, and a "graded" 52 Topps Mays from a unknown grading company).

They have all fake warning signs...even corner rounding, artificial aging, a little crackle effect, and just something that looks a little "off" about them in general.

I'd love to see a follow-up on what the eBay authenticators rule when these cards arrive for authentication.

[Exhibitman]

If you haven't already, go to the link of the Paige and click on the Learn More link in the box describing the service. You can see what they are going for: a bypass entirely of the slabbing regime. The card comes back in a Card Saver with a sticker (like what Beckett used to do (does?)) with its QR code and in a cardboard display easel you can fold out and put on a desk. Looks tailor made for the newbie and casual collector who is the most likely victim of a fake card scam and who doesn't really know or want to have his nephew's Bar Mitzvah present graded and encapsulated.

My guess is that from eBay's perspective, paying the cost for CSG to look at the card and slap a sticker on it or reject it is more cost-effective than paying off burned collectors and trying to get repayment from scammers for all of the high-dollar fakes out there.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by jayshum

This listing has the Authenticity Guarantee indication. Odds it's authentic?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/32500646135...YAAOSwwC9h6Nfu

Currently with 63 bids - with they authenticate the shill bids as well?


Just wondering.

[conor912]

Getting in bed with a company like ebay is a major boon for a company like CSG. My guess is ebay cards will be expedited through their system while their normal subs get shoved aside. I wouldn’t be surprised if eBay is interested in an in-house grading sercice and they looking at purchase opportunities.

[lowpopper]

3 of these in the mail already. Hope it works out for the better

[Republicaninmass]

Worst shipping ever. Coincidence? Still says in route to authenticator.



May 5, 2022
11:15am
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
YBOR CITY FL DISTRIBUTION CENTE, 33605
May 5, 2022
11:12am
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
YBOR CITY FL DISTRIBUTION CENTE, 33605
May 5, 2022
12:01am
ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
YBOR CITY FL DISTRIBUTION CENTE, 33605
May 4, 2022
10:18pm
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824
May 4, 2022
10:08pm
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824
May 4, 2022
8:04pm
ARRIVE USPS FACILITY
SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824
May 4, 2022
7:46pm
ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824
May 4, 2022
8:06am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
MONTGOMERY AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 36119
May 4, 2022
8:01am
ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
MONTGOMERY AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 36119
May 4, 2022
6:16am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35203
May 4, 2022
6:09am
ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35203
May 4, 2022
5:55am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
May 4, 2022
5:36am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
May 3, 2022
4:26pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
May 3, 2022
11:45am
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
Apr 26, 2022
3:38pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
LITTLE ROCK AR PACKAGE SORTING, 72115
Apr 25, 2022
7:42pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
LITTLE ROCK AR PACKAGE SORTING, 72115
Apr 25, 2022
5:48pm
DEPART POST OFFICE
SHERWOOD, AR 72120
Apr 25, 2022
3:34pm
USPS in possession of item
SHERWOOD, AR 72120
Apr 25, 2022
1:36pm
SHIPPING LBL CREATED USPS AWAITS ITEM
SHERWOOD, AR 72120
Apr 25, 2022
11:36am
Tracking number provided
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T

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Worst shipping ever. Coincidence? Still says in route to authenticator.



May 5, 2022
11:15am
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
YBOR CITY FL DISTRIBUTION CENTE, 33605
May 5, 2022
11:12am
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
YBOR CITY FL DISTRIBUTION CENTE, 33605
May 5, 2022
12:01am
ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
YBOR CITY FL DISTRIBUTION CENTE, 33605
May 4, 2022
10:18pm
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824
May 4, 2022
10:08pm
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824
May 4, 2022
8:04pm
ARRIVE USPS FACILITY
SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824
May 4, 2022
7:46pm
ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824
May 4, 2022
8:06am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
MONTGOMERY AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 36119
May 4, 2022
8:01am
ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
MONTGOMERY AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 36119
May 4, 2022
6:16am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35203
May 4, 2022
6:09am
ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35203
May 4, 2022
5:55am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
May 4, 2022
5:36am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
May 3, 2022
4:26pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
May 3, 2022
11:45am
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
Apr 26, 2022
3:38pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
LITTLE ROCK AR PACKAGE SORTING, 72115
Apr 25, 2022
7:42pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
LITTLE ROCK AR PACKAGE SORTING, 72115
Apr 25, 2022
5:48pm
DEPART POST OFFICE
SHERWOOD, AR 72120
Apr 25, 2022
3:34pm
USPS in possession of item
SHERWOOD, AR 72120
Apr 25, 2022
1:36pm
SHIPPING LBL CREATED USPS AWAITS ITEM
SHERWOOD, AR 72120
Apr 25, 2022
11:36am
Tracking number provided
--
T

At least it's in the right state now. Hopefully it should be at the authenticator soon.

Hopefully it doesn't go the same route from there to you.

I clench my cheeks a little harder any time I have to rely on somebody else shipping out a product I had to ship to them first, before THEY ship it on to where I originally intended for it to go.

On a lot of International packages I'm now forced to ship to a clearinghouse for them to put the final label and paperwork on before it goes on it's way. Whether it's through Ebay...or even Stamps.com.

[GrewUpWithJunkWax]

My 1st experience purchasing with the authentication service... a 4-day USPS transit, delivered in Sarasota this morning, and 4 hours later got a notice the card failed inspection and that I was refunded.