Local John Stockton Mask Controversy

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jim65

I agree 100% on masks.

I'm not anti-vax but forcing people to inject anything into their bodies crosses a line.

Vaccinations have been mandatory in schools forever, just the issue didn't get that much attention for obvious reasons.

[irv]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

QUOTE=irv;2189340]Yeah, those stupid, ignorant anti-vaxxers!!!!
"""1073 cases in the fully vaccinated hospitalized compared to 417 in the unvaccinated""
https://www.durhamradionews.com/archives/149331

https://twitter.com/NickFondacaro/st...72856409354250
https://twitter.com/itsonlychoclat/s...g-icu-bed-data

You've been lied to since the beginning. It's about time you warmed up to that fact.

I've seen this foolishness from you before, and marvel at your lack of understanding of basic math and probability. More than six times as many people are vaccinated as are not. Yet the difference in hospitalizations, assuming your numbers to be correct, is about two to one. Hmm, wonder why.[/QUOTE]

What I find foolish is people still thinking these vaccines actually work just because their T.V. screens and their corrupt and crooked gov’t and their funded media tell them they do.
What I also find foolish is that people can’t see the flip flopping, the lies, the back and forth, the moving of the goalposts, and if they do, they still don’t question anything.

Our numbers up here were, not long ago, over 11,000 to 1. Meaning, 11,000 fully vaccinated cases to 1,000 in the unvaccinated, but because many, thankfully, were starting to question that, they changed the way they reported things.
Manitoba's numbers were becoming even worse in the fully vaccinated, so now, because people were also questioning that, they now report on a 6 week average instead of providing daily reports. Things that make you go Hmm, or at least should.

Right now, up here, despite an 80% vaccination rate our cases/numbers are higher than what they were pre-vaccines?!?! But some, foolishly, still think the vaccines work, or they have been brainwashed enough to now accept that breakthrough cases, hospitalizations, including being put into the ICU, and dying are now the norm and what we are now seeing is what all vaccines prior to these unapproved ones were like too.

Prior to this last lockdown we are currently in, everyone was told to get vaccinated to enjoy concerts, restaurants, seeing gramma and attending other functions that the unvaccinated wouldn’t be able to do, but, despite the mass vaccination rate of over 80%, we are locked down yet again.

Foolishly still think the vaccines work when the unvaccinated were basically house bound/locked down and not allowed to go out and mingle with the fully vaccinated? We, in case you’re wondering, despite being fully vaccinated, still have to wear masks unless seated in a restaurant. Wear them going in but once seated, because for some strange reason covid only gets you while standing/walking, you can take them off once seated.

Like I said before, the idiocy, the stupidity, the hypocrisy and all the lies are all around us, but just like a brainwashed cult, those that are in it and still blame the unvaccinated, are too deluded to even notice.

Watch this. Think you were ever being told the truth about hospitalizations?
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CYhFWb1..._web_copy_link

Watch this one too. You won't see it on the news. It's Pfizer's CEO admitting on video the first 2 doses provided very little, if any, protection at all and the booster provides "reasonable" protection. Define reasonable, please.
https://youtu.be/evP8OgHU6hk

[Peter_Spaeth]

Between most of the world's governments, "the media," big pharma, hospitals, scientists and researchers, and don't forget the overwhelming majority of physicians, it's one hell of a conspiracy, damn. I wonder how often they hold meetings? "They" must have to meet often, to make sure everyone's on board with disseminating the same lies and misinformation, no?

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Between most of the world's governments, "the media," big pharma, hospitals, scientists and researchers, and don't forget the overwhelming majority of physicians, it's one hell of a conspiracy, damn. I wonder how often they hold meetings? "They" must have to meet often, to make sure everyone's on board with disseminating the same lies and misinformation, no?

Peter, you have no idea how vast the conspiracy extends. You will soon though, as Mike Lindell will get on the case, to expose the REAL Big Lie. No more pillow talk. I hear maybe even JFK, Jr. will get involved, in case his old man is indisposed (or decomposed).

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Peter, you have no idea how vast the conspiracy extends. You will soon though, as Mike Lindell will get on the case, to expose the REAL Big Lie. No more pillow talk. I hear maybe even JFK, Jr. will get involved, in case his old man is indisposed (or decomposed).

Speaking of which even RFK Jr. is apologizing for his disgraceful comments over the past couple of days invoking the Holocaust.

[nolemmings]

This Headline from the Wall Street Journal a couple of hours ago:

Covid-19 Deaths in the U.S. Top 2,100 a Day, Highest in Nearly a Year
--Omicron variant, though milder for some patients, is spreading with record-breaking speed.

Damn that flu. Of course, don't believe it. The WSJ is secretly run by George Soros. And Big Pharma. And the physicians. And the MSM. And the Libs. And Hollywood. And Academia. We need Mike Lindell to get the 300 million or so Americans (in name only) responsible for these lies put behind bars. NOW

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

This Headline from the Wall Street Journal a couple of hours ago:

Covid-19 Deaths in the U.S. Top 2,100 a Day, Highest in Nearly a Year
--Omicron variant, though milder for some patients, is spreading with record-breaking speed.

Damn that flu. Of course, don't believe it. The WSJ is secretly run by George Soros. And Big Pharma. And the physicians. And the MSM. And the Libs. And Hollywood. And Academia. We need Mike Lindell to get the 300 million or so Americans (in name only) responsible for these lies put behind bars. NOW

I blame Greta Thunberg. It's all a ruse to distract attention from climate change.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Vaccinations have been mandatory in schools forever, just the issue didn't get that much attention for obvious reasons.

Yes, the ones that prevent terrible diseases, not ones that simply mitigate one, like a yearly flu shot.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Between most of the world's governments, "the media," big pharma, hospitals, scientists and researchers, and don't forget the overwhelming majority of physicians, it's one hell of a conspiracy, damn. I wonder how often they hold meetings? "They" must have to meet often, to make sure everyone's on board with disseminating the same lies and misinformation, no?

Without trying to get political, which countries and/or states, blue or red, seem to be pushing this agenda, passports and mandates, more than the other?
Liberal gov't up here and south of me. Australia and France, to name a couple others. I am unsure so don't shoot me, but if I am not mistaken, these countries/states have the most draconian rules in place, no?
I said it in the other thread. I honestly don't believe this is about covid nor the vaccines. They are, imo, just a means to an end for the global reset, the agenda 2030 movement.
How can an honest, for the people gov't, push/coerce a vaccine on its citizens and require mandates and passports when once vaccinated you can still contract and spread the disease you're vaccinated against?? It makes zero sense.
https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/stat...C92aCxop8pAAAA

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Yes, the ones that prevent terrible diseases, not ones that simply mitigate one, like a yearly flu shot.

And those were all tested and verified to be safe, which likely took years, before they were released to the general public. They are not unapproved EUA only vaccines like these covid ones are. It's amazing how many still don't understand that.

[BobC]

As much as old cliches and adages are often viewed as stupid, biased, discriminatory, and just plain wrong in our current world, the sad truth is they were likely borne from real life events, circumstances, and observed actions and tendencies, and more often than not have a lot of actual truth and reality to support them, or at least did at some time in the past. But they are/were still never truly 100% accurate, which gives all the naysayers and opponents the ability to argue, fight, and complain about them with at least some degree of accuracy and righteousness. One of my all-time favorites is usually expressed as a short riddle.

How can you tell whenever a politician is lying..................their lips are moving!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobC

As much as old cliches and adages are often viewed as stupid, biased, discriminatory, and just plain wrong in our current world, the sad truth is they were likely borne from real life events, circumstances, and observed actions and tendencies, and more often than not have a lot of actual truth and reality to support them, or at least did at some time in the past. But they are/were still never truly 100% accurate, which gives all the naysayers and opponents the ability to argue, fight, and complain about them with at least some degree of accuracy and righteousness. One of my all-time favorites is usually expressed as a short riddle.

How can you tell whenever a politician is lying..................their lips are moving!

Yeah same joke told as to lawyers.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yeah same joke told as to lawyers.

Like all jokes, they are loosely based on truths

[irv]

Any vaccinated individuals still believe they are not just Guinea pigs for Fauci and big Pharma?
And some still don't think these covid vaccines, despite the fully vaccinated hospitalization numbers, the ICU admissions and deaths deplete, not enhance ones immune system.
https://www.facebook.com/555416934/v...81669697164866

[Michael B]

Unfortunately the great unwashed and Qmorons who are not critical thinkers complain about 'draconian rules' (their words) in other countries yet they know little of what they speak. Post all of the links you wish but the truth wills out.

'Texas Ted' and a Canadian member here railed about Australia and their rules. The facts:

Australia - population 25.69 million.
Cases
2.29M
Deaths
3,230
Location Cases Deaths
Australian Capital Territory 31,941 25
New South Wales 994K 1,139
Northern Territory 9,702 2
Queensland 345K 129
South Australia 103K 74
Tasmania 25,884 16
Victoria 776K 1,836
Western Australia 1,415 9

Hmmm. I guess it is not working there. Western Australia with a population of 2.7 million. Its largest city Perth with 2 million people. My God, the horrors!!!!


New Zealand has always been a bio-control zone. Try to bring a piece of fruit, raw nuts or seeds into the country and you will pay a hefty fine. If you have ever tried to enter the country you know what I mean. I have. You go through biological control before you can even go through passport control. The first time I was there in 2002 for the America's Cup prelim races the headline on the news for two days was about some school buses that were purchased from Australia. They found a non-native spider on one of them. They were tented and fumigated in a large parking lot for several days.

New Zealand
Total cases
15,687
Deaths
52

The current population of New Zealand is 4,883,423 as of Tuesday, January 25, 2022.
I guess their PM Jacinda Arden is just some Gen Xer who is too young to know and panicked when she put her country on lockdown and closed the borders.

That is pretty amazing. 52 deaths in a country of 4.9 million people over a two year period. Ontario had that many on Monday, January 17, 2022.

Ontario - population 14.57 million
Total cases
971K
Deaths
10,702

So a country with 33.5% of the population of your PROVINCE has 0.48% of the number of deaths. The Maoris should uprise and overthrow the government. Kill all the Kiwis!!!

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yeah same joke told as to lawyers.

Hmmm, I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that around 60% of those in Congress are attorneys/have law degrees, and something like 59% of all US Presidents were lawyers?


Actually, I always thought the preferred lawyer joke was:

What do you call 100,000 lawyers at the bottom of the lake/ocean.................a good start!


Feel free to come back with any well known CPA joke/cliche/adage............if you can find one! LOL

And I always liked and felt you could trust Harry Truman, he sold hats and suits, and is the only President since the 20th century began to not have gone to college!

[steve B]

Originally Posted by BobC

Hmmm, I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that around 60% of those in Congress are attorneys/have law degrees, and something like 59% of all US Presidents were lawyers?


Actually, I always thought the preferred lawyer joke was:

What do you call 100,000 lawyers at the bottom of the lake/ocean.................a good start!


Feel free to come back with any well known CPA joke/cliche/adage............if you can find one! LOL

And I always liked and felt you could trust Harry Truman, he sold hats and suits, and is the only President since the 20th century began to not have gone to college!

CPA, the only career too boring to even have jokes about it.

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by BobC

Hmmm, I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that around 60% of those in Congress are attorneys/have law degrees, and something like 59% of all US Presidents were lawyers?


Actually, I always thought the preferred lawyer joke was:

What do you call 100,000 lawyers at the bottom of the lake/ocean.................a good start!


Feel free to come back with any well known CPA joke/cliche/adage............if you can find one! LOL

And I always liked and felt you could trust Harry Truman, he sold hats and suits, and is the only President since the 20th century began to not have gone to college!

Your facts are not quite right:

Congress is made up of four main occupational backgrounds: law, business, public service, and education. Those from a law background still dominate Congress—but not with nearly the stranglehold they did in the early part of the 20th century. Today lawyers represent less than 40 percent of Congress. In the place of law, new competing occupations have risen in prominence, such as business, medicine and a professionalized political class composed of political aides and members of civil society.

Additionally, only 4 of the last 10 presidents had/have law degrees with two of them being disbarred - Nixon resigned from two, disbarred from one. Slick Willy disbarred from two.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Dale, Pfizer got final approval in the US anyhow back in the summer.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...vid-19-vaccine

No they didn't, Peter. They got approval for a vaccine called cormirnaty, which, if you do some digging, isn't available anywhere.
It's another lie, another one of hundreds so far that has been used to fool and trick the public into thinking the Pfizer vaccine has been approved.

If there is an "approved" vaccine then all others in use under EUA must be removed. That is the law.
https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepar...vid-19-vaccine

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by irv

I honestly don't believe this is about covid nor the vaccines. They are, imo, just a means to an end for the global reset, the agenda 2030 movement.

The what now?

[irv]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

The what now?

What has been going on while we've all been distracted by other things.


https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/our...t-great-reset/
https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustai...elopment_Goals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2fp0Jeyjvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz--5LTTmaM

[Peter_Spaeth]

Today Prince Charles, tomorrow the world. Fertile ground for conspiracy theorists for sure.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by irv

What has been going on while we've all been distracted by other things.


https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/our...t-great-reset/
https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustai...elopment_Goals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2fp0Jeyjvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz--5LTTmaM

I wouldn't watch a Trump or Trudeau speech if you paid me, but I skimmed through the rest of it. What is your theory, exactly?

[steve B]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

The what now?

The agenda 2030 movement.
Formerly known as the agenda 2020
Formerly known as ... I forget, directive 12? Something like that.

Known by the rest of us as "that gibberish that keeps the dummys spending their cash on whatever snake oil we're hawking on the internet. because it doesn't come from big pharma."

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by irv

Without trying to get political, which countries and/or states, blue or red, seem to be pushing this agenda, passports and mandates, more than the other?
Liberal gov't up here and south of me. Australia and France, to name a couple others. I am unsure so don't shoot me, but if I am not mistaken, these countries/states have the most draconian rules in place, no?
I said it in the other thread. I honestly don't believe this is about covid nor the vaccines. They are, imo, just a means to an end for the global reset, the agenda 2030 movement.
How can an honest, for the people gov't, push/coerce a vaccine on its citizens and require mandates and passports when once vaccinated you can still contract and spread the disease you're vaccinated against?? It makes zero sense.
https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/stat...C92aCxop8pAAAA



And those were all tested and verified to be safe, which likely took years, before they were released to the general public. They are not unapproved EUA only vaccines like these covid ones are. It's amazing how many still don't understand that.

I think one of the most draconian countries when it comes to covid is that great liberal state of China.

[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Vaccinations have been mandatory in schools forever, just the issue didn't get that much attention for obvious reasons.

Those vaccines - MMR, Polio, Chicken Pox, Measels etc. actually prevent you from getting those diseases. These covid vaxxes do not do that and thus should probably be called therepeutics.

But that would not help the various narratives....

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by chalupacollects

Those vaccines - MMR, Polio, Chicken Pox, Measels etc. actually prevent you from getting those diseases. These covid vaxxes do not do that and thus should probably be called therepeutics.

But that would not help the various narratives....

Agreed, scientifically speaking, but the CDC has now changed the definition of a vaccine. I thought this was odd on day one -- it actually might have helped public acceptance more calling it a therapeutic rather than a vaccine since that term has a built in negative connotation for some?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Dale, Pfizer got final approval in the US anyhow back in the summer.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...vid-19-vaccine