2022 Baseball Hall of Fame - tracker

[SyrNy1960]

I never have the opportunity to add a card, since I don't collect vintage, so I'll post my favorite Arod signed card, as it fits in this debate. A sloppy signer, so I really like the signature on this card.

This debate will go on for a long time, as we all think differently. I hope they all get in.

[jingram058]

Let's talk about The Big Papi for a minute. Why is the decision to put him in or not so hard? Designated Hitter is a legitimate position in the American League, is it not? Can anyone name another person who filled that position any better? And these questions are from a lifetime Yankees fan.

[mrreality68]

All the questions will not be answered but soon we will know the results.

Great thread and conversation

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by jingram058

Let's talk about The Big Papi for a minute. Why is the decision to put him in or not so hard? Designated Hitter is a legitimate position in the American League, is it not? Can anyone name another person who filled that position any better? And these questions are from a lifetime Yankees fan.

Mainly because they are keeping some players out for PED use. Why is a beyond obvious PED user getting in when others are not? That is my only problem with him getting in. If you seriously question if he ever done PEDs look at the year he had at 40 years old and tell me that is normal.

[dmats33312]

Originally Posted by jingram058

Let's talk about The Big Papi for a minute. Why is the decision to put him in or not so hard? Designated Hitter is a legitimate position in the American League, is it not? Can anyone name another person who filled that position any better? And these questions are from a lifetime Yankees fan.

Cause unlike Clemens, McGwire, Bonds, Palmeiro and others, Ortiz actually tested positive for steroids and not just had accusations. Thats not to say the others didn't use but they never tested positive. Add on top Ortiz is a fringe HoFer anyway that clearly had add from gear seems weird that he would get in and the others wouldn't. But hey, Bagwell, Piazza, Ivan Rodriguez and others are already in so it's not like the voters have any consistency as is.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by jingram058

Let's talk about The Big Papi for a minute. Why is the decision to put him in or not so hard? Designated Hitter is a legitimate position in the American League, is it not? Can anyone name another person who filled that position any better? And these questions are from a lifetime Yankees fan.

Everyone else who has tested positive or has significant evidence of use is being kept out. McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, Ramirez, Bonds, Clemens. It’s not that he’s a DH, it’s that the general ‘steroid policy’ look like it’s going to be waived for Ortiz, and only for Ortiz. Bonds denied for the 10th time while Ortiz, who tested positive, is elected the same year will be a complete joke.