OT: 3.5 Million Dollar Scam - Pokemon Cards Certified by BBCE

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Ironic that this forum seems to have more contempt for an honorable guy like Steve Hart who admittedly fucked up than the countless criminals trimming and otherwise altering cards, knowingly selling altered cards, knowingly GRADING altered cards, shilling auctions, knowingly selling fake memorabilia, and so forth.

Of course. The transparency of people is stunning...and not in a good way. The criminals who trim and shill are offering things most of the hobby needs. As long as you are offering them cards on they need and you can ship them quickly and affordably, it is super easy to look the other way for fraud. Steve only has value to a small part of the hobby.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Of course. The transparency of people is stunning...and not in a good way. The criminals who trim and shill are offering things most of the hobby needs. As long as you are offering them cards on they need and you can ship them quickly and affordably, it is super easy to look the other way for fraud. Steve only has value to a small part of the hobby.

I'm sorry, who is looking the other way exactly? Are you talking about certain dealers, or auction houses or what?

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I'm sorry, who is looking the other way exactly? Are you talking about certain dealers, or auction houses or what?

Law enforcement?

Any collector who has held his nose and dealt with the likes of PWCC?

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Law enforcement?



Any collector who has held his nose and dealt with the likes of PWCC?

I'd say you are 0 for 2 there but let's see what Mr. Walker has to say.

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[toppcat]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I'd say you are 0 for 2 there but let's see what Mr. Walker has to say.

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He's actually 2 for 2

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Of course. The transparency of people is stunning...and not in a good way. The criminals who trim and shill are offering things most of the hobby needs. As long as you are offering them cards on they need and you can ship them quickly and affordably, it is super easy to look the other way for fraud. Steve only has value to a small part of the hobby.

This is Spot On !!!! On This board a lot of guys care about the trimming and shilling. In the modern market most could give a darn less. Manny on Facebook and ebay buying have no idea about PWCC or the info on blowout.