Undergraded Cards

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by robw1959

I don't know about that. What are you seeing that I am not seeing?

I can't say for sure that they are wrinkles but that's what they look like and what I think Greg probably sees.

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[robw1959]

Originally Posted by Pat R

I can't say for sure that they are wrinkles but that's what they look like and what I think Greg probably sees.

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Probably light scratches there, except for the straight horizontal line across his face, which I think is a tiny print line.

[JollyElm]

As a variation hound, this PSA 4 card has bothered me forever. It looked like the best one I had (centering aside, obviously, which is a tiny bit better than it looks, because the plastic border is blocking a bit of the white), so it was the first one sent in for grading. The PSA 6 is included for comparison purposes...

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I still can't for the life of me understand how it got tossed into the VG pit!! That usually indicates a crease or wrinkle, but there is none. The only anomaly I can detect is a very tiny straight line 'indent' in the gloss (visible by tilting it in the light) that was undoubtedly just a part of the printing. Corners are epically sharp, back is fine, so I guess it's time to stop using my blacklight to illuminate my Hendrix posters and put it to work seeing if there's something somewhere that my human eye is unable to detect.

[robw1959]

Look at the left-to-right centering. I think that's what probably limited the grade because otherwise, I think it looks as good as or even better than the 6.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by robw1959

Look at the left-to-right centering. I think that's what probably limited the grade because otherwise, I think it looks as good as or even better than the 6.

Yeah, absolutely. That's certainly true, but this was submitted with qualifiers allowed, so I was expecting/hoping for a 7+ OC. But a four?? That drops it from 'no creases/wrinkles' to 'with creases/wrinkles,' I believe, since there aren't any issues present that would drop it that far without creases/wrinkles being present.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

there aren't any issues present that would drop it that far without creases/wrinkles being present.

Maybe they thought that the printing discoloration on the bottom left (faded orange field) was some kind of surface wear rather than just a printing defect.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Maybe they thought that the printing discoloration on the bottom left (faded orange field) was some kind of surface wear rather than just a printing defect.

It's virtually identical to the PSA 6 in coloring, etc., and no surface wear. They were printed that way. It's gotta be something hidden in the blacklight.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by robw1959

Probably light scratches there, except for the straight horizontal line across his face, which I think is a tiny print line.

It's so hard to tell from a picture what is really going on, but it looks like there is another line going from Hank's right ear to the top of his lip. And there is a "W" on his right cheek.

[Leon]

This one might be a grade or so low.....

[NYYFan63]

Originally Posted by Leon

This one might be a grade or so low.....

Wow - that card looks amazing & looks better than some 3’s I have seen…


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[Carter08]

Originally Posted by NYYFan63

Wow - that card looks amazing & looks better than some 3’s I have seen…


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Razor sharp corners.

[Wanaselja]

Originally Posted by Pat R

I can't say for sure that they are wrinkles but that's what they look like and what I think Greg probably sees.

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Yes, I see multiple wrinkles as well. There might be another at the top border that runs down and through the D is his hat.