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[mannybb24]

Hi Rolando, Happy New Year, I hope you're doing well.

Since you posted about Central I was hoping you can help me with this team photo in my collection. I know the guy in the suit is a very young Julian "Fallanca" Perez, do you happen to recognize any of the other players or know the possible year this is from?
Thank you for your help and appreciate your time again!
Steve Peissig

[Roland 49]

Steve, that photo of the Central team from 1904 is very rare, the one you show doesn't look good, but when I saw it I thought I had one and I looked for it, and it's cooler and the players are better identified, that year 1904 , the teams Cuba, Central and Sam Francisco will play in the championship, in the city of Santiago de Cuba, and each team was allowed to include some of the players from the Professional Championship, I have all the statistics of that championship with the 3 teams, Now I answer your question, you are going to see my photo that looks better, you will see that 3 of the players have cards in the Cigarros Cabañas 1909 collection, in the photo standing, from left to right, the second is Angel D'Mesa, the fourth is Carlos (Bebe) Roger, seated the third is Inocencio Perez, next to Julian Perez (Fallanca) there are other familiar faces in the team.

[mannybb24]

Wow, do you want to trade photos Rolando? Haha, just joking but yours is so much nicer, mine is very faded which is a shame because I couldn’t really tell if I saw anyone familiar other than Julian Perez.
You say the guy next to Fallanca is Inocenio Perez but if you look you see the player wearing the glove on his right hand which makes him a left handed thrower, and Inocenio was a right handed thrower I believe.
Could this be Chino Moran instead? I’ve always thought this could be him but my photo is so light I couldn’t really tell.
Thank you for your help and I appreciate you showing your photo for better reference.
Steve

[Roland 49]

La Ambrosia 1943 card album, the photo shows the page of Club Deportivo Matanzas that was champion that year, you can see the cards of Limonar Martínez, Consuegra, Angel Fleitas, Rouget Avalos, Catayo Martinez etc. In the other photo the cover of the Album with the flags of all the teams that participated in the championship.

[GeoPoto]

Sandalio S. Consuegra Castellon. Cuban-born pitcher for the Washington Senators in 1950-53. 51 wins and 28 saves in 8 MLB seasons. 1954 All-Star. His best season was 1954 with the Chicago White Sox as he posted a 16-3 record with 4 saves and a 2.69 ERA in 154 innings pitched. He ended his career with the New York Giants in 1957.

Consuegra's SABR biography explains how Sandy (and his son) got his name: In 2011 Sandy’s son Rogelio (Roger) told the story. “In Cuba most homes had a Catholic calendar, and it gave the name of the saint for each day of the month. I must assume his name came from the calendar, as all his other brothers and sisters had similar ‘strange’ names". Indeed, the feast day of San Sandalio (St. Sandila, a ninth-century Spaniard martyred by the Moors) is September 3. Roger Consuegra further related, “When I was born my mother refused to name me Sandalio and I was going on the fifth day with no name. That afternoon Rogelio Martínez and Julio Moreno were facing each other, and they agreed I would be named after the winning pitcher. Deportivo Matanzas won; thus, my name is Rogelio.”

Consuegra got his nickname (Potrerillo) in Cuban ball from his hometown. Much the same was true of Rogelio Martínez, who was dubbed “Limonar” for the name of the town where he first played. Manolo de la Reguera, the famous Cuban sports commentator, was responsible for Consuegra’s nickname and those of many other players.

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[Roland 49]

George, this anecdote about Sandalio is very good. In the 60s to 90s, the games of memory between veteran players from Habana and Almendares were held in the United States, now I show two photos of those memorable games of memory, one is from 1981, we see Joe Valdivielso, Rodolfo Fernandez and Fermin Guerra , in the other from 1993, to Rodolfo Fernández, Miñoso and Armando Vázquez.

[Roland 49]

Photo of the memory games between Habana and Almendares in the 60s 70s 80s 90s, we see Mike Fornieles and Tom Lasorda.