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Frank Isbell retired from MLB Oct 3, 1909. So, that explains why his pop report numbers are low. American Lithograph most likely stopped issuing his
cards earlier than the other 150 Series guys. Lefty Leifield pitched for Pittsburgh till May 1912, so I have no explanation for why his SOVEREIGN 150 cards are tougher to find. Whatever, if these extravagant prices continue for T206 SOVEREIGN cards, I may be tempted to sell my entire SOVEREIGN complete set of 408 cards. It would be one of the best investments that I have ever made in Sportscards. ![]() ![]() ![]() TED Z T206 Reference . |
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If I had your 408 card Sovereign group, I'd probably work on filling in the spaces, like the 350 Subject cards your missing, that you currently have the 150 Subjects of. Same thing for 460's you have and the 350's of the same card that you don't have. Excluding the Super Six, because if I remember correctly, you have the 350's and the 460's of those.
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The low pops don't have anything to do with when a player retired, Isbell for example was printed with a Sovereign 350 so they didn't stop issuing his cards
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Hi Ronnie It's amazing how you and I think alike. I have considered selling a lot of my stuff, but I enjoy this hobby too much to get serious about selling these little cardboard gems. Besides, my Grandson Ron loves this stuff as much as I do, and he eventually will inherit most of it. I have already given him my 1952 TOPPS master set (his favorite set). Speaking about master sets.....the All - SOVEREIGN set is totally complete with 476 cards, when you include the 350 backs of the 150 Series cards. I've chose to limit my set to the 402 basic subjects, plus the rare 460 versions of the Six Super Prints (on display here)...... ![]() ![]() . . ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Take care my good friend. TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Isbell didn't retire then, that was just his last MLB game. He bought full stake in a minor league team from Wichita in mid-December of 1909 and then asked for his release from Chicago, which happened a week later. To maximize his profits, he managed and played first base for the team too.
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I'm always surprised when veteran T206 collectors compare the printing and distribution of them to sets like Topps, Bowman, Goudey, Leaf etc...
Unlike those sets they were an advertising premium whose main purpose was to sell more cigarettes. There are a significant number of players in the set that were retired or are represented on teams they weren't playing for at the time of distribution. |
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Back in 2006 - 2007, I think I was the first guy on this forum to have completed an (all) SOVEREIGN set of 408 subjects.
My set includes the Six Super-Prints with their rare SOVEREIGN 460 backs (the toughest of the 6 which is this red Cobb). And, 44 more cards in the 150/350 Series (with SOVEREIGN 350 backs) in order to complete a Master set (476 cards). Since then, I know of two other T206 collectors who have achieved this accomplishment in recent years. So now, this SOVEREIGN Isbell card sells for an unprecedented " $889 ".....WOW ! Then can you imagine what I can get, if I consign this rare Cobb to an Auction sale (REA, ebay, etc.) ? ? It's mind-boggling ![]() ![]() ![]() TED Z T206 Reference . |
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You can at least get $879 for an Isbell Sovereign 150, that’s what the underbid was. Hope that assists with pricing.
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Ted! I miss the Cobb 460 card I sold you! LOL! Marc
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Hey Marc
Occasionally, I like to post it......Leon says we should display a BB card with our posts, and what Leon suggests is fine with me ![]() This SOVEREIGN 460 Cobb is my favorite in my set....it's not going anywhere. Take care my friend. TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Just an observation I wanted to share.
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