OT: 3.5 Million Dollar Scam - Pokemon Cards Certified by BBCE

vintagetoppsguy · #1 01-17-2022, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Right, which means San and Logan withheld the information from him. THEY knew the odds were this was going to be a bust, but led him on. With respect to Howard and others, something is just off about that video.

IMO, you're reading too much into it. If they would have divulged that info to Steve/BBCE beforehand, it's likely that he wouldn't have met with them. That's just my $.02.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 01-17-2022, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

IMO, you're reading too much into it. If they would have divulged that info to Steve/BBCE beforehand, it's likely that he wouldn't have met with them. That's just my $.02.

I think that was my point. They led him on because they wanted him to be in the video.

vintagetoppsguy · #3 01-17-2022, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think that was my point. They led him on because they wanted him to be in the video.

Ok, understood. But I think it was important for him to be there for a couple of reasons: (1) he could confirm that the BBCE shrink-wrap hadn't been tampered with since it left his facility and (2) he could give his justification for authenticating the case originally.

If it were me and I had spent that much money, I would want the authenticator to be there.

swarmee · #4 01-17-2022, 12:53 PM

But if you're Steve and this is coming back to you based on rumors from the internet, wouldn't he have the common sense to read those rumors? It's like he wasn't even aware of them, since all he talked about before they cracked it was the condition of the label (fake) and the tape (fake). Or someone from his business should have pulled him aside with all the information. The meeting in the hotel room was like 3-5 days *after* all the information was out there on video and webpages explaining the rationale it was fake. That's a lot of time that he had to look into the challenges.

Reminds me of the scene in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade; Steve should have known the phrase "penitent man" before walking into a buzzsaw.

Peter_Spaeth · #5 01-17-2022, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee

But if you're Steve and this is coming back to you based on rumors from the internet, wouldn't he have the common sense to read those rumors? It's like he wasn't even aware of them, since all he talked about before they cracked it was the condition of the label (fake) and the tape (fake). Or someone from his business should have pulled him aside with all the information. The meeting in the hotel room was like 3-5 days *after* all the information was out there on video and webpages explaining the rationale it was fake. That's a lot of time that he had to look into the challenges.

Reminds me of the scene in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade; Steve should have known the phrase "penitent man" before walking into a buzzsaw.

He's of a certain generation. Maybe he doesn't follow social media/Pokemon forums/whatever.

frankbmd · #6 01-26-2022, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

He's of a certain generation. Maybe he doesn't follow social media/Pokemon forums/whatever.

I'm of a certain generation (and I don't like it). I don't even know Pokemon forums existed.

bnorth · #7 01-26-2022, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd

I'm of a certain generation (and I don't like it). I don't even know Pokemon forums existed.

Frank it is never too late to take that T206 cash and invest it Pokemon.

Eric72 · #8 01-17-2022, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee

...someone from his business should have pulled him aside with all the information. The meeting in the hotel room was like 3-5 days *after* all the information was out there...

This makes quite a bit of sense. How many employees are there at BBCE?

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