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Old 01-17-2022, 09:21 AM
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I had my limit higher than that. My limit was over 4 figures. I’ve seen some weird stuff in bidding - I’m pretty open about what I’m collecting - not hard to figure out. I had a doc white hindu at goldin that ended up at 4x what last price paid was - I let it go. Less than a week later it showed up on PWCC for $4k. I’m sure someone was trying to overbid it and resale it because it’s rare. For that reason I just set my limit stupid high but I didn’t pop it until 5 seconds left. I had my limit at 450 until the very end. See attached pic
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Old 01-17-2022, 09:42 AM
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This is one of the toughest Sov150s. I bid pretty aggressively because would have been an upgrade for me but didn't make the Olympic podium. Market starting to get smart to these types of toughies.

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Old 01-17-2022, 10:04 AM
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Just a few years ago, I paid $40 for this Isbell as an upgrade in my set. So, what can I get for it on ebay, nowadays ?

It's getting "crazy" out there


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Old 01-17-2022, 10:12 AM
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Well it looks like you me and Ron are the members of the Isbell sov150 club. I just wanted to complete my set and I figured someone else would be lurking out there. I expected $700ish?
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Old 01-17-2022, 10:39 AM
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Well it looks like you me and Ron are the members of the Isbell sov150 club. I just wanted to complete my set and I figured someone else would be lurking out there. I expected $700ish?
Congrats on the get Paul! I think a lot of us expected both the Isbell and Leifield to pull strong numbers and they did….final numbers weren’t as surprising as I think some would feel.

It’s a great collection card to have…..rarely seen in the wild.

Congrats again!

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Old 01-17-2022, 10:45 AM
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I had my limit higher than that. My limit was over 4 figures. I’ve seen some weird stuff in bidding - I’m pretty open about what I’m collecting - not hard to figure out. I had a doc white hindu at goldin that ended up at 4x what last price paid was - I let it go. Less than a week later it showed up on PWCC for $4k. I’m sure someone was trying to overbid it and resale it because it’s rare. For that reason I just set my limit stupid high but I didn’t pop it until 5 seconds left. I had my limit at 450 until the very end. See attached pic
This is one of the really great aspects of this board- real collectors being transparent about what we collect, why, and even what we paid. This type of info helps put some of the anomalies in the sales results into context. Just invaluable- thanks for sharing.
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Old 01-17-2022, 11:07 AM
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Interesting read on how this went down. Funny thing ... I would've probably posted it as BIN for $70 or so.
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Old 01-17-2022, 11:18 AM
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Old 01-17-2022, 11:42 AM
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For clarification - is the Sov 150 ranked #25 on back scarcity? I was looking through a box I have with cards in it and found a Sov 150 backed T206 along with a least a dozen or more other T206s with other Sov, AmB, Tolstoi backs. I put them away but I do recall two HOF portraits with Sov 350 backs were in there. I've probably had them in that box for a few decades now.
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Old 01-17-2022, 11:56 AM
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For clarification - is the Sov 150 ranked #25 on back scarcity?
I believe they're saying that the specific card (Isbell) is a short print among the Sovereigns, not the overall ranking of Sovereigns is off. Some printed sheets had multiple of the same card, leading to some cards being short-printed.
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Old 01-17-2022, 12:24 PM
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Congrats Paul, great card!

YOu guys posting that you got an Isbell Sov150 for less than $100 got a great deal. I've owned two or three over the last 10 years and sold them all for $300+

Like Jay said, people are starting to pay up for the toughest combos and the poses that are toughest to find with a mid-tier back.
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Old 01-17-2022, 12:29 PM
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The PSA pop report shows a total of two Sovereign 150 Frank Isbell cards. The SGC pop report shows a total of five. There are other known copies, both raw and slabbed, including this PSA 2.5 that I bought two years ago from David Hall's collection at Heritage: https://bit.ly/34ZeCeh But suffice it to say, the card is extremely rare. It's likely the rarest of all Sovereign 150 backs, and one of the rarest of all Sovereign backs. The published back-scarcity rankings don't matter much when it comes to this card.
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So I'm assuming there are other Sovereign 150's that fall into a similar category. Because PSA and SGC pop total for Isbell is 7 cards, and there are other cards that fall into similar pop totals. But nobody really knows how many raw cards are out there. But an Old Mill Isbell has a total pop of only 5 cards. Can't imagine where prices would land on that one. I guess if you have the money to spend, then there really is no problem with that final bid. Congrats on getting a card you really wanted.
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I believe they're saying that the specific card (Isbell) is a short print among the Sovereigns, not the overall ranking of Sovereigns is off. Some printed sheets had multiple of the same card, leading to some cards being short-printed.
John, thank you for the explanation. It makes sense. I should probably try to read the T206 thread Ted started. It seems fairly comprehensive. I've collected T206s for years but most have been traded/sold, but I still have some and enjoy them.
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