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Since every thread needs a card, here's one I don't recall showing before:
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Now watch what you say, or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh, fanatical, criminal Won't you sign up your name? We'd like to feel you're acceptable, respectable, presentable, a vegetable If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.- Ulysses S. Grant, 18th US President. |
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I don't collect this set. I have a handful as types, mostly for the backs. I don't think I have any blank backs. I know from collecting T213, that a card like the Murray in my profile pic, can go for a high number, and then a collection pops up with 4 of them sold in succession, and they sell for peanuts. It only takes another collector or 2 to drive the market.
It looks like most of the cards sold for under $100, unless they were big stars or high grade. I don't know the set well enough to think that an Al Betzel is a $381 card. eBay gets high prices in situations where two people put in top all bids, not really wanting to pay as much as they bid. Also, someone who buys an Al Betzel for $381 could be the kind of guy who has the money to buy the Ruth.
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Want to buy or trade for T213-1 (Bob Rhoades) Other Louisiana issues T216 T215 T214 T213 Etc |
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I think it is a great set and perhaps a few people have woken up to that fact. While I don’t collect the sets I do know that some non-HOFers are pretty scarce, especially in the M101-5 set. What really interests me are the backs and some of these are genuine rarities; think Mall Theatre as compared to T206 brown Lenox.
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Very underrated set, and features some of the earliest cards for several HoFers. Love the B&W real images, too.
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Hi Todd, I had the same exact dumbfounded response. Love the set, but…
I personally bought a dozen of the SGC graded M101-4s in the Davidbvintage auction. A couple of the Graded 5 - EX HOF’s cost me between $425-480 (bought Harry Hooper and Frank Baker). The others, graded 4.5-7 we very reasonable. To see these raw cards, in nice condition but not high grade, sell so high 3 months later was astounding! I was outbid on 16 cards. I won only 1 auction from GM. Why, all of a sudden, did Duffy Lewis and Del Gainer become so popular. Anyone who won those items want to enlighten us? Thanks
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Thanks for your thoughts, Joe. Love the late 1800’s Boston Beaneaters and the early Boston Red Sox (1903-1918)! Also collecting any and all basketball memorabilia. Last edited by Dead-Ball-Hitter; 01-15-2022 at 05:12 PM. Reason: Pic added |
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Greatest set ever produced IMO- The players, action shots, and rare backs are killer. Todd I am collecting both master sets. I have also noticed an uptick in the sold prices for common singles- but not across the board. I have every numbered card and advertising back accounted for except for 1.so well over 400 cards with multiple backs and short prints having to be accounted for. The feat took me about 5/6 years.
My favorite card in the entire set is the Oscar Stanage portrait to thighs. 1 of the 4 short prints… I am lucky enough to have all 4.. Thanks to your education with your article you did years ago - we known why the Stanage was corrected twice in the m101-5s and then -4s.. I was lucky enough on a hunch to purchase a large group of the m101-4s (100 or so) that were found in a grand piano during an estate recently. Miraculously the short print Stanage “portrait to thighs” was included. Last edited by PhillyFan1883; 01-15-2022 at 05:18 PM. |
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Just bought this common in PSA 2 - Forrest Cady- for $80. Mainly paid that high because slabbing has become so expensive, would have paid more for grading (although I would have used SGC).
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Thanks for your thoughts, Joe. Love the late 1800’s Boston Beaneaters and the early Boston Red Sox (1903-1918)! Also collecting any and all basketball memorabilia. |
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Brian, your two H-to-H cards are super nice - it's hard to find these without paper loss on the backs.
Your WaJo, not so nice - badly OC - you should get rid of it and get a nice Altoona Tribune card like this one: ![]()
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Seeking very scarce/rare cards for my Sam Rice master collection, e.g., E210 York Caramel Type 2 (upgrade), 1931 W502, W504 (upgrade), W572 sepia, W573, 1922 Haffner's Bread, 1922 Keating Candy, 1922 Witmor Candy Type 2 (vertical back), 1926 Sports Co. of Am. with ad & blank backs. Also 1917 Merchants Bakery & Weil Baking cards of WaJo. Also E222 cards of Lipe, Revelle & Ryan. |
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Thanks for the input guys, and the kind words Connor. It seems pretty clear that the m101s have now come to the attention of set collectors, whereas before the focus was on specific players and rare backs for type. I am fortunate enough to own all of the known backs, and the tougher ones still draw money, but nothing much has changed in their prices of late.
I’m glad somebody else noted the strange pricing this past week. I wonder if the prohibitive cost of grading prewar commons means we should look for a noticeable rise in the pricing of raw examples, especially from reputable and established dealers. It’s pretty clear that Yankee and Red Sox team collectors are hitting it rather hard on these m101s, as the prices I cited mostly affected players from those teams. The Magee remains a flat out mystery, as again there was a price difference of 450% in the past three months on a card that was not in high grade and is not all that difficult to find (although not part of m101-5). Nice cards everyone, and congrats Joe on your davidbvintage winnings. Baker and Hooper are two of my faves. Frank, thanks for the info on Betzel, whose card has always fetched a higher than average price–now I know why. Anyway, here a few more of mine: ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Now watch what you say, or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh, fanatical, criminal Won't you sign up your name? We'd like to feel you're acceptable, respectable, presentable, a vegetable If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.- Ulysses S. Grant, 18th US President. |
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Always liked the M101-4/5's, mostly because of all the advertisement backs. Yet, I really dont have many. Here are the 5 I own currently
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Great series of cards love the images and the ad backs.
Great cards Ryan. Love those Thorpe ad backs
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