***Lost 1888 N162 Goodwin Champs King Kelly - PSA 3 (MK)

[Directly]

If the shipping box appears there was no evidence of tampering, isn't it possible the card was not in that box from the beginning ?

[aloondilana]

Originally Posted by Directly

If the shipping box appears there was no evidence of tampering, isn't it possible the card was not in that box from the beginning ?

Yes. That seems like a legitimate possibility. The question is why and where’s the card? At the moment the seller is out the sale price and the card. He’s trying to get surveillance from the post office as the package tracking is timestamped 9:01am, but the manager at the PO is saying there is no surveillance in the lobby…although there is a camera (the seller went back and took pics confirming that). He’s saying he’s getting law enforcement involved Tues but he also said that yesterday. He’s also told my buddy if the card is found he can just have it, he doesn’t care about the money. It’s really crazy but at least it’s just a quest to find the card at moment

[GasHouseGang]

This is a really strange story. Maybe the seller got cold feet? Usually if this happens the seller just suddenly says they lost the card, or they say an error was made in the listing, or some other story. They don't mail you an empty package and go through all this drama. But stranger things have happened.

[mrreality68]

Wow this is weird especially with the packaging being pristine.
Luckily the buyer got his funds back so did not take a monetary loss.

Seems more seller related as mentioned prior

Hopefully we get an update to this at some point

[Fred]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

This is a really strange story. Maybe the seller got cold feet? Usually if this happens the seller just suddenly says they lost the card, or they say an error was made in the listing, or some other story. They don't mail you an empty package and go through all this drama. But stranger things have happened.

Maybe someone David Copperfield-ed it... strange for sure. It'll be interesting if it shows up for sale.

[Dead-Ball-Hitter]

If it doesn’t fit, you must acquit! The packaging is untouched, I’d acquit the post office, this seems like a seller issue.

[cammb]

Maybe seller wanted to back out of deal and went through this charade. How do you explain am immediate refund?

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by cammb

Maybe seller wanted to back out of deal and went through this charade. How do you explain am immediate refund?

Bingo was his name-o. That immediacy makes no sense.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Dead-Ball-Hitter

If it doesn’t fit, you must acquit! The packaging is untouched, I’d acquit the post office, this seems like a seller issue.

I was once getting a new passport for one of my bosses. We went to the post office, got the paperwork all done, and sealed in an envelope by the postal service clerk.

I then took that envelope to fedex to express overnight to my passport people (pre-zombie apocalypse I could usually get a passport in a couple days using "my people").

The next morning they called to say that when they opened the fedex envelope, which had no damage to it and was sealed properly, the envelope inside that had been sealed by the post office had been opened, rendering it useless for getting a passport.

So we had to do it all again.

Doug

[skelly423]

I don't know the parties involved and don't intend to libel anyone, but to me the simplest explanation would be that the seller had a major case of seller's remorse and just sent an empty package. The (mostly) honest thing would be to send the refund, and play along with the investigation for the benefit of the buyer. I doubt we'd ever know, but I wouldn't be surprised if the card is still safely tucked away in the seller's collection.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by aloondilana

told my buddy if the card is found he can just have it, he doesn’t care about the money. It’s really crazy but at least it’s just a quest to find the card at moment

WTF?

This is a card worth thousands of dollars, isn’t it?

Something is definitely wrong with this story.