T207

[joejo20]

Is this a brown ink back?

[Bridwell]

No that card does not look like a brown back.

Regarding Red Cross backs, I don't think Hartley has ever been found. There are only about 10 players known with Red Cross backs. Harley does come with an Anonymous Factory 3 and an Anonymous Factory 25 back.

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by Bridwell

No that card does not look like a brown back.

Regarding Red Cross backs, I don't think Hartley has ever been found. There are only about 10 players known with Red Cross backs. Harley does come with an Anonymous Factory 3 and an Anonymous Factory 25 back.

There's another Anonymous Factory back for Hartley? Son of a...

[frohme]

Anon 25 ...



and as Ron says .. no RedCross of Hartley is known at this point in time, though one is certainly in the realm of possibility, small as that might be ...

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Mike

[frohme]

Originally Posted by joejo20

Is this a brown ink back?

I tend to agree with Ron on this - and that its likely not, but it definitely makes you look twice. There are a number of well-known examples that are very clearly brown. There are a good number of others that you could argue are brown. The one thing that seems consistent to me is that scans and pics do not do the brown print backs justice - when viewed on screen, they mostly look meh.

Here's a Gardner for comparison.



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Mike

[joejo20]

Originally Posted by Bridwell

No that card does not look like a brown back.

Regarding Red Cross backs, I don't think Hartley has ever been found. There are only about 10 players known with Red Cross backs. Harley does come with an Anonymous Factory 3 and an Anonymous Factory 25 back.

Originally Posted by frohme

I tend to agree with Ron on this - and that its likely not, but it definitely makes you look twice. There are a number of well-known examples that are very clearly brown. There are a good number of others that you could argue are brown. The one thing that seems consistent to me is that scans and pics do not do the brown print backs justice - when viewed on screen, they mostly look meh.

Here's a Gardner for comparison.



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Mike

Thanks for your input. I removed the cards from penny sleeves and took a photo instead of a scan. What do you think now?

[frohme]

Originally Posted by joejo20

Thanks for your input. I removed the cards from penny sleeves and took a photo instead of a scan. What do you think now?

Thanks, Joe - a good side-by-side in the same photo makes all the difference - it has my vote as brown.

One of the other hallmarks for me (for many, not all) is that the paper has a more yellowish hue - sometimes very strongly. Don't how that might be related, but you can often pick them out when looking at groups of cards that way, at least for closer inspection.

I don't know if anyone is cataloging the off-backs with T207 (brown print/blank back), but this gets my vote to be added to the list.
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Mike

[GasHouseGang]

I picked up these examples primarily because I have never owned a T207 card.

[joejo20]

Originally Posted by frohme

Thanks, Joe - a good side-by-side in the same photo makes all the difference - it has my vote as brown.

One of the other hallmarks for me (for many, not all) is that the paper has a more yellowish hue - sometimes very strongly. Don't how that might be related, but you can often pick them out when looking at groups of cards that way, at least for closer inspection.

I don't know if anyone is cataloging the off-backs with T207 (brown print/blank back), but this gets my vote to be added to the list.
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Mike

Thanks for confirming and for more details. I felt like it was brown ink but wanted a second opinion. Joe