Observation regarding 1910 Obak Cigarette pack

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by abothebear

The seller isn’t necessarily the counterfeiter. So perhaps we should hold off on quartering him until we know. But I agree he should offer a full refund.

The seller has a responsibility to assess what he is selling or clearly state " I don't know if it's genuine or not".

[birdman42]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

The seller has a responsibility to assess what he is selling or clearly state " I don't know if it's genuine or not".

Except that "I don't know if it's genuine or not" is seller code for "I do know, and it's not."

Bill

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by birdman42

Except that "I don't know if it's genuine or not" is seller code for "I do know, and it's not."

Bill

True

[Eric72]

Is this the item in question?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/12505403381...p2047675.l2557

[Vintagecatcher]

Good luck Jon!

That stinks that someone went to that length to deceive. Glad you can dispute it as fraud with your credit card company.

Best of luck!

Patrick

[canjond]

Thanks all. I’m sure that between eBay and my credit card company, I’ll be made whole. Yes - that was the auction.

As to the reproduction, it’s actually quite surprising that someone took the time to try to fake a cigarette pack, but in hand, it’s so obvious (not so from the scans). The label has been printed on computer paper and wrapped around a distressed looking slide box. It’s been made to look old, but the printing on the computer paper is not crisp. Also it doesn’t feel like a lithographed box - dead giveaway. The size is also incorrect. The tax stamp is also computer printed and glued onto the top, then split along the seam. Now looking at the sellers other items, I see lots of other hand-made reproductions and fantasy pieces being sold as authentic. I have a suspicion this person knows what he is doing.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by canjond

Thanks all. I’m sure that between eBay and my credit card company, I’ll be made whole. Yes - that was the auction.

As to the reproduction, it’s actually quite surprising that someone took the time to try to fake a cigarette pack, but in hand, it’s so obvious (not so from the scans). The label has been printed on computer paper and wrapped around a distressed looking slide box. It’s been made to look old, but the printing on the computer paper is not crisp. Also it doesn’t feel like a lithographed box - dead giveaway. The size is also incorrect. The tax stamp is also computer printed and glued onto the top, then split along the seam. Now looking at the sellers other items, I see lots of other hand-made reproductions and fantasy pieces being sold as authentic. I have a suspicion this person knows what he is doing.

Rather elaborate attempt by the seller. It’s somewhat surprising the size is incorrect.