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Old 12-30-2021, 09:16 PM
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I don't think we're near the middle of that spectrum at all. I think the older collectors, the guys who've been collecting since before 1990, I think those folks are skewed way to hell near the limits of the collector extreme. I think that newer collectors may well be bunched near the middle, but on the collectors' side of it. And the investor guys (notwithstanding the possibility that some of them may well think they're collecting somewhat because they've held a card 18 months or so), those guys are in the minority here, and they're huddled over at the investor edge of the spectrum.

Just by this thread being started, that seems not thoughts of some middle ground thinker; but rather someone who's a collector annoyed with reading stuff by the quick flipper folks.

To respond to the original post, it reminds me of telling some kids to stay on one side of a fence and other kids to stay on the other side. This place here didn't start because card dealers and card investors wanted a public forum to discuss old ballcards. It was started by collectors. If you started up an alternate site for the investors to use, they couldn't stay on their side of the fence, they'd wander back here. So I like the sentiment i perceive from the original poster, but two sites wouldn't work.

(One last thought... if anyone thinks most of us are bunched in the middle of the spectrum, how are you ascertaining what the folks who seldom if ever post have in mind? I don't think they sit slightly out of sight of those of us who closely circle the Net54 campfire... sitting back there and reading about old ballcards. Who knows what those folks are thinking? My guress is they're not in the middle, I think they're wanting to learn about old ballcards.
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Old 12-30-2021, 09:21 PM
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I don't think we're near the middle of that spectrum at all. I think the older collectors, the guys who've been collecting since before 1990, I think those folks are skewed way to hell near the limits of the collector extreme. I think that newer collectors may well be bunched near the middle, but on the collectors' side of it. And the investor guys (notwithstanding the possibility that some of them may well think they're collecting somewhat because they've held a card 18 months or so), those guys are in the minority here, and they're huddled over at the investor edge of the spectrum.

Just by this thread being started, that seems not thoughts of some middle ground thinker; but rather someone who's a collector annoyed with reading stuff by the quick flipper folks.

To respond to the original post, it reminds me of telling some kids to stay on one side of a fence and other kids to stay on the other side. This place here didn't start because card dealers and card investors wanted a public forum to discuss old ballcards. It was started by collectors. If you started up an alternate site for the investors to use, they couldn't stay on their side of the fence, they'd wander back here. So I like the sentiment i perceive from the original poster, but two sites wouldn't work.

(One last thought... if anyone thinks most of us are bunched in the middle of the spectrum, how are you ascertaining what the folks who seldom if ever post have in mind? I don't think they sit slightly out of sight of those of us who closely circle the Net54 campfire... sitting back there and reading about old ballcards. Who knows what those folks are thinking? My guress is they're not in the middle, I think they're wanting to learn about old ballcards.
Well we could do a poll, but I think we'd need some clear definitions first.
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Old 12-30-2021, 10:11 PM
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I don't think we're near the middle of that spectrum at all. I think the older collectors, the guys who've been collecting since before 1990, I think those folks are skewed way to hell near the limits of the collector extreme. I think that newer collectors may well be bunched near the middle, but on the collectors' side of it. And the investor guys (notwithstanding the possibility that some of them may well think they're collecting somewhat because they've held a card 18 months or so), those guys are in the minority here, and they're huddled over at the investor edge of the spectrum.

Just by this thread being started, that seems not thoughts of some middle ground thinker; but rather someone who's a collector annoyed with reading stuff by the quick flipper folks.

To respond to the original post, it reminds me of telling some kids to stay on one side of a fence and other kids to stay on the other side. This place here didn't start because card dealers and card investors wanted a public forum to discuss old ballcards. It was started by collectors. If you started up an alternate site for the investors to use, they couldn't stay on their side of the fence, they'd wander back here. So I like the sentiment i perceive from the original poster, but two sites wouldn't work.

(One last thought... if anyone thinks most of us are bunched in the middle of the spectrum, how are you ascertaining what the folks who seldom if ever post have in mind? I don't think they sit slightly out of sight of those of us who closely circle the Net54 campfire... sitting back there and reading about old ballcards. Who knows what those folks are thinking? My guress is they're not in the middle, I think they're wanting to learn about old ballcards.
Hi Frank,

If you're referring to my post where I said I think many on here are somewhere in the middle of that collector-investor spectrum, you are taking my use of the word "middle" in my phrasing, too literally. That is exactly why I preceded that by also using the word "somewhere" in my phrasing. I actually agree with you in that the collectors are likely closer to the collector side of the spectrum, and the investors closer to the investor side, which is what I thought was coming across when I said most people were likely "somewhere in the middle of the collector-investor spectrum", meaning they were somewhere on that spectrum between just a collector, or just an investor, In other words, somewhere in the middle between the two extremes, but it doesn't mean they're all exactly halfway between the two sides and at the literal midpoint of the spectrum or arc.

It's another way of saying that in today's environment, it's going to be tough to find a collector on here that maybe doesn't also have at least a little bit of investor, or at least investor influence, affecting them, and ditto for investors. However, I would think you're more likely to find investors who care absolutely nothing for collecting, than you are to find collectors who care absolutely nothing for the investment aspect. Trust this clarifies things for you.
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