What's the rarest card you own?

[Aaron Seefeldt]

Originally Posted by benchod

Great stuff Kenny and all,
Speaking of cards cut from candy boxes here's a pretty scarce Wagner with a famous portrait

Love the Wagner, these are 1 of 1s with Matty & Needham being much more common - 1 of 2s...

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Hank, here's another example of a Dockman & Sons All Star Base-Ball card:

Very nice, Val! Any idea what the total pop of these cards and boxes is thought to be? Double digits, I would guess.

[gabrinus]

Great J=Ks guys!!...Jerry

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

That's a great find. But if that's really a snapshot, it must have been someone with greater access than an average fan to have taken the photo on the field during warm-ups.

It was the team photographer. the other two that came with it were used for team issued PCs.

[phlflyer1]

Craig and Aaron,

Great J=Ks!

I especially love the type II's where the players head was incorporated into part of the box tab.

Here are my two J=K examples... sadly "Rough" Bill Carrigan was decapitated somewhere along the way.

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Very nice, Val! Any idea what the total pop of these cards and boxes is thought to be? Double digits, I would guess.

Hank, I have no idea as to what the total pop of the 1910 Dockman All Star Base-Ball candy boxes is.

As to the total pop of individual graded cards, PSA appears to have graded only 1 card from this set: https://www.psacard.com/pop/baseball...hand-cut/33252.

SGC's pop report is more difficult to navigate than PSA's, IMHO. I am unable to find the two SGC-graded cards that Scott showed in Post #211 of this thread anywhere in SGC's pop report. And, I can only find this one graded example in SGC's pop report: https://www.gosgc.com/pop-report/res...20Gum/Baseball Edited to add that this link apparently doesn't work, even though I copied the link from the SGC pop report page I was looking at. This one card I found in the SGC pop report is George Gibson.

[ValKehl]

Many real-photo, black & white sets were issued by different companies in 1916 using the same two sets of card, commonly referred to as the M101-4 and M101-5 sets. The cards from several of these sets are very scarce/rare. The following are my type cards, and while each is a 1-of-1 per the PSA & SGC pop reports, it would not surprise me if there are raw examples of some of these in collections.

[JLange]

Recently picked up what I believe to be my rarest Bob Feller collectible, a c1947 PC of Bob Feller, "-now pitching for Popsicle"

Its been 10yrs since I saw the last one of these up for sale.

[Leon]

A more recent pick up. When I saw it, I was like, ok I have to have it...

[Exhibitman]

Boy, Feller and Rocky Marciano are the two biggest advertising whores I've ever seen. I don't think there was an endorsement deal too small for either of them.

Meanwhile, my contribution for the day:

[phlflyer1]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Hank, I have no idea as to what the total pop of the 1910 Dockman All Star Base-Ball candy boxes is.

As to the total pop of individual graded cards, PSA appears to have graded only 1 card from this set: https://www.psacard.com/pop/baseball...hand-cut/33252.

SGC's pop report is more difficult to navigate than PSA's, IMHO. I am unable to find the two SGC-graded cards that Scott showed in Post #211 of this thread anywhere in SGC's pop report. And, I can only find this one graded example in SGC's pop report: https://www.gosgc.com/pop-report/res...20Gum/Baseball Edited to add that this link apparently doesn't work, even though I copied the link from the SGC pop report page I was looking at. This one card I found in the SGC pop report is George Gibson.

Hi Val,

Thanks for posting that info and for sharing your example from the set.

I haven't really paid much attention to SGC's new website since they got rid of their registry.

Sounds like they've lost data from their old pop reports as I had my whole set graded by SGC back at the 2005 national. In the old pop report, besides my set, I only ever remember them having graded maybe 2-3 other cards in total from the set.

[ctownboy]

I own some Star Player Candy cards and some Curtis Ireland Candy cards that have less than five on the pop reports. But for something different, I will post these cards.

1) A trimmed N175-2 (the rarer, larger size) Gypsy Queen card
2) Two cabinet cards of Yale Murphy. The first is from Pach Brothers when he was a senior at Yale. The second is from the Newboy series.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

But for something different, I will post these cards.

1) A (part) of a large Gypsy Queen card

Looks like your Keefe and my Connor are Gypsy Queen brothers.

Brian

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Looks like your Keefe and my Connor are Gypsy Queen brothers.

Brian

Very cool piece

[ctownboy]

Brian,

Cool to see another partial Gypsy Queen.

I got my Keefe in a trade with Ted Koch when he lived in Indianapolis. At that time, he had six of the nine cards in the set and all of them had the advertising cut off.

Your Conner might have been one that Mr. Koch owned.

David

[todeen]

Card size photo, autographed by Heinie Groh.

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[ctownboy]

Todeen,

What is the Underwood trademark for? I think they were photographers for some different card issues so could this Groh photo be one used for an actual card?

David

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

Brian,

Cool to see another partial Gypsy Queen.

I got my Keefe in a trade with Ted Koch when he lived in Indianapolis. At that time, he had six of the nine cards in the set and all of them had the advertising cut off.

Your Conner might have been one that Mr. Koch owned.

David

It certainly looks like they came from one source. I received mine in a group vintage lot about 12-15 years ago, and I believe that it was identified as an Old Judge card. Because of the trimming, it is approximately the same size as an Old Judge, so I thought about it as such until about 4-5 years ago a Net54 member identified it as a Gypsy Queen.

Brian

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by todeen

Card size photo, autographed by Heinie Groh.

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I have the same exact Heinie Groh card, minus the autograph. I believe someone speculated that these may have been made up for Groh in the 1960's to give away/autograph.

Brian

[todeen]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

Todeen,

What is the Underwood trademark for? I think they were photographers for some different card issues so could this Groh photo be one used for an actual card?

David

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

I have the same exact Heinie Groh card, minus the autograph. I believe someone speculated that these may have been made up for Groh in the 1960's to give away/autograph.

Brian

I don't know a lot, but I really like it. The back is stamped numbered 913. However, I know that these exist for other players. I saw the same deckle edge with a collage style pic for another player. And most likely I saw it from a member on this site. So I've always had the impression this was a small set, TCMA style.

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[WillowGrove]

This may be the rarest card I own - although I consider it more a photo - Frank Selee HOF manager. His single image is not on any card other than the rare Allegheny Card Co. set - so I am very happy to have this for my HOF collection. And FYI it's a Horner photo taken when the Cubs came to Boston in May of 1902. Great thread!

[atx840]

Stunning Peter

[Exhibitman]

Another Diamond Dust



Always looking for others, BTW.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by todeen

I don't know a lot, but I really like it. The back is stamped numbered 913. However, I know that these exist for other players. I saw the same deckle edge with a collage style pic for another player. And most likely I saw it from a member on this site. So I've always had the impression this was a small set, TCMA style.

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My card is also stamped '913' on the back.

Brian

[Stlfan1961]

My 1st post!


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[sb1]

The 913 was stamped by whomever developed the film for the pictures, most old pics from the 1930's-40's have a stamped number on the back that corresponds with the negative used.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Stlfan1961

My 1st post!


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Nice card and nice first post

[ctownboy]

Brian,

If your Gypsy Queen is about the size of an Old Judge card then it is the regular version. My Gypsy Queen is a trimmed larger version.

If that is the case then our cards didn't come from the same person.

David

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by Stlfan1961

My 1st post!


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Great card and nice first post. I'm looking forward to your encore!

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

Brian,

If your Gypsy Queen is about the size of an Old Judge card then it is the regular version. My Gypsy Queen is a trimmed larger version.

If that is the case then our cards didn't come from the same person.

David

David, you are correct. It appears the sizing on mine makes it the regular, Type 1 version. Pretty impressive that you have a Hall of Famer in the larger version.

Brian

[ctownboy]

Brian,

Thanks.

Back in the early 1990's, I was in college and on the weekends, I would travel around to auctions, antique stores, flea markets, antique shows and something called The Collectors Caravan which would come to Indianapolis.

Being a poor college student, I didn't have much money to buy the good things I found so I would tell Ted Koch about them. Either he would have me buy them for him (and be reimbursed) or he would go and look at the stuff for himself.

After a really good find for him, I was wanting to trade some of my cards for one of his (trimmed) Large Gypsy Queen commons just to have something cool in my collection. As a thank you for me finding him some good things, he said instead of just a common, he would trade me the Keefe instead.

Later, after he moved to Florida, I didn't know it but he sold the other five large GQ's in a Lew Lipset auction. He also sold the "good find" which was a small stack of Curtis Ireland candy cards (including a Ty Cobb that I think Leon just sold this past Summer) and some American Caramel cards.

If I had known he was going to sell the Curtis Ireland cards, I would have tried to buy them before they went to auction...... UGH.

Oh well,

David

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Stlfan1961

My 1st post!


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Heckuva card.



And welcome to the board

[Tim Kindler]

WOW!!! What beautiful cards in this thread!!!!!!............Really impressed with those ALL STAR BASE-BALL PACKAGES from Dockman & Sons belonging to Scott and Val!

Here are a couple of rare Old Put E98s

[gabrinus]

Cool Old Puts Tim...Jerry

[Shankweather]

This thread is freakin amazing. Here are a couple one-of's I picked up this year.

[benge610]

Originally Posted by Tim Kindler

WOW!!! What beautiful cards in this thread!!!!!!............Really impressed with those ALL STAR BASE-BALL PACKAGES from Dockman & Sons belonging to Scott and Val!

Here are a couple of rare Old Put E98s

Second that Tim! (beautiful cards, ...)
I couldn't resist, after seeing the Old Puts; Here is a signed Fredericks CDV of "Old Put's"
(Gen. Isreal Putman, Rev. War hero) great grandson; in the era of when the Connecticut Tobacco Company was making the Old Put 5c. cigar. I love a good back story; still in progress.


Ben

[TaxMechanick]

Not exclusively cards, but, here goes...

Best,
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[Brian Van Horn]

Peckinpaugh properly spelled in this pose. Sorry, but it is not an E121:

[Casey2296]

More Old Puts.
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[dfletch00]

rare if you are a tribe/guardians fan I guess... still one of my favorites

[Tim Kindler]

Thanks Jerry and Ben on the Old Puts!

Ben, The CDV of Israel Putnam's grandson is really cool!!!!! Israel was a French and Indian War and Revolutionary War Veteran....Story goes is that he earned the "OLD PUT" nickname around the age of 24 when everybody in his town was having their animals terrorized by a big, bad wolf. His friends lowered him down into the den of the wolf by his feet tied to a rope, and he didn't have any fear and killed the wolf all by himself with his hands and buckshot. He "Held Put" as they say, and they nicknamed him Israel "Old Put".

Not necessarily baseball history, but American History!

Phil, especially love the BLUE Kling "Old Put" that you own!!!! I will keep my eye out for those 2 needed E98s!
Happy New Year everybody!!!!! Almost at least!

[Fred]

This kind of goes along with the pictures in posts 262 and 263.

[investinrookies]

won this recently at REA. Bid on it having no idea there were two separate versions and the Type II is much more rare than Type I. Turns out I was bidding on the Type II.

[Brian Van Horn]

Stretching it :

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[chiprop]

cobb proof .jpg

proof cobb 4 .jpg


2 of 3 known to exist

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[Tim Kindler]

Brian,
Here is an E121 PeckinBaugh, incorrectly spelled.....

Brian, educate me/others on this. Is there a correctly spelled E121 Peckinpaugh in the set that is much rarer?? I am trying to figure out what your earlier post was getting at on his spelling

Thanks, Tim

[Tim Kindler]

E121 Peckinbaugh

[puckpaul]

Lajoie rarity, a T5 Pinkerton.