When Doing a Trade

[Leon]

So I was trying to do a trade with a very nice member in the last few days. As we were talking a little about comps and stuff he sent me a comp of my T206 Cobb Bat On...
Here is the comp he used from Heritage...
and here is my SGC card next to it...
I would say that when working on values try to get something closer to the one in question.

[Jim65]

I pretty much gave up on trading, way too many people feel the need to come out ahead. Very few fair traders left.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Jim65

I pretty much gave up on trading, way too many people feel the need to come out ahead. Very few fair traders left.

i agree with this...it has become very difficult to trade without feeling one has been bent over these days. Very few traders around!

[mrreality68]

Sometimes it is hard.

1. everyone want the trade in their favor
2. sometimes people use only what is "available" from auctions at that time
3. Sometimes they compare the grade vs the eye appeal
4. sometimes and sadly people try and look at the trade one sided

In the end the beauty of the deal it is not done until it is done. So until the 2 sides agree there is nothing more then an exchange of ideas

[CTDean]

Trading now is nothing like it was 40 years ago. In the early 1980's I traded quite a bit with old time collector Crab Foxwell as we both lived in Cambridge, MD and he was a very good friend. He was doing quite a few shows in the MD-PA area and was overloaded with pre-war (not selling at most shows) and out of 1950's & 60's material. I was buying collections and not doing shows yet.
We would put up a card table under the tree behind my antique shop to do our trades. He would put a T3 Johnson in the center and ask for Mantle's. When the pile got right, he would slide me the Johnson and take the Mantles. I put a 1957 T Brooks Rookie & 1967 Brooks Hi # in the center and he would build his pile of pre-war to trade. We could usually sit there for an hour or more trading and talking.

[Kzoo]

^^^ That is so cool to envision.....and this would be a great topic to add to the 'Festivus: Airing of Grievances' ongoing thread.

[JimC]

No one wants to get completely massacred in a trade, but it's not unusual for me to take a little less in a deal if I'm getting something I really want that's hard to come by. I made a trade not long ago for a card with a scarce back and definitely gave up more market value but I was willing to pay a premium to get the rare card, and I think it's okay for the guys with rare stuff to expect a little extra.

[icurnmedic]

I commonly give more market value when I am trading multiple lower value cards for a high dollar card. I also try to give at least 1/2 in cash if I can.
People need to realize the whole do unto others idea.
That being said,I have made some amazing trades with some well known board members and I appreciate that.
Thomas

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by JimC

No one wants to get completely massacred in a trade, but it's not unusual for me to take a little less in a deal if I'm getting something I really want that's hard to come by. I made a trade not long ago for a card with a scarce back and definitely gave up more market value but I was willing to pay a premium to get the rare card, and I think it's okay for the guys with rare stuff to expect a little extra.

Sure and I agree! I see people over on Facebook daily offering nice cards not super rare but nice desirable cards asking for a certain amount of cash and then about 15 to 20% more in trade value.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Leon

So I was trying to do a trade with a very nice member in the last few days. As we were talking a little about comps and stuff he sent me a comp of my T206 Cobb Bat On...
Here is the comp he used from Heritage...
and here is my SGC card next to it...
I would say that when working on values try to get something closer to the one in question.

1,000 percent agreed. Not all 2000 Honda Civics are alike. You could get a 20,000 mile unicorn and you can get a 300,000 mile lemon. You CAN NOT compare the two. Cards are no different. If the guy is using comps, he should #1) stick to the same grader and #2) look at the same caliber of card.

[LincolnVT]

Any lemon with 300,000 miles is a unicorn in my eyes.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

1,000 percent agreed. Not all 2000 Honda Civics are alike. You could get a 20,000 mile unicorn and you can get a 300,000 mile lemon. You CAN NOT compare the two. Cards are no different. If the guy is using comps, he should #1) stick to the same grader and #2) look at the same caliber of card.

I have owned 6 Honda Civics....this is my current one And you can't compare it to others....

I think when starting a trade you can lose some credibility if you undervalue extensively right off the bat.
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[bobbyw8469]

Sweet.....I currently own 2. My 2000, which has 220,000 miles is my daily driver. Not much to look at. But she cranks up and goes. Has cold air...working radio.....she is my daily driver. Then I have a 2010 with 75,000 miles. She is my "travel" car for longer road trips. Civics are GREAT cars.

[notfast]

I despise trading because it’s almost always not worth the effort…but I’ve made some bigger trades in the last couple years.

Traded Mahomes rookies for SGC 3 red Cobb
Traded a bunch of modern for a psa 2.5 52 Mantle
Traded t227 Cobb (and cash) for a psa 4 t205 Cobb (at the national)

It’s tough but it can be done. Best luck I’ve had is trading up aka my “cheaper” stuff for your 1-2 more expensive cards.