Carmelo Deportivo

[thatkidfromjerrymaguire]

Originally Posted by moranbpc8

Hello:
The players from the US in the 1945-46 set were
#12 Barney (actually Bonnie) Serrell (Negro League 1941-45)
#25 Ray Dandridge (Negro Leagues 1933-44)
#26 Booker McDaniel (Negro League 1941-45)
#30 Raymond Brown (Negro League 1931-45)
#42 Charles (actually Cecil Kaiser(Negro League 1947)
#51 Charles (Terris) McDuffie (Negro League 1930-45)
#91 Lloyd Davenport (Negro League 1935-45)

Non Negro Leagues (played in Organized Ball at Minor Leagues and/or National/American Leagues

#21 Lou Knerr (MLB: American League 1945-47)
#23 Charles (Red) Adams (MLB National League 1946)
#45 Lou Klein (MLB: American and National Leagues 1943-51)
#47 Dick Sisler (son of George Sisler (MLB National League 1946-53)
#48 Jim (actually Art) Rebel (MLB 1938 and 1945 in NL)
#52 Fred Martin (MLB 1946-50 NL)

sources seamsheads.com and baseball-reference.com

I hope this helps.

This site continues to deliver the goods...I was specifically searching for this information on Google and a link to this post showed up.

Actually, due to some additional research, I have a card to ADD to the Negro League list.

I believe that Pedro Medina (card 50) is actually a card of Negro League player Lázaro Medina. Not sure if he went by both Pedro and Lázaro?

According to the complete list of players linked from this site: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...seball_players Pedro Medina pitched for the Cuban Stars in 1906 and 1907....but his picture looks nothing like the Pedro Medina on card 50.

However, Lázaro Medina reportedly pitched for the Cincinnati Clowns in 1944 and 1945. Lázaro's picture looks like the guy on card 50 and the back of Medina's card literally says that Pedro "Played in 1945 in the United States with the Cincinatti Clowns". I feel like that is sufficient evidence

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[JLange]

The set also includes Sal Maglie of NY Giants fame, and Beto Avila, aka Bobby Avila, the 1954 AL batting champ with the Cleveland Indians.

[GeoPoto]

Ramón "El Profesor" Bragaña was a Cuban baseball pitcher and outfielder in the Negro leagues and the Mexican League. 15 hits and 1 home run in 1 MLB season. He played professionally from 1928 to 1955, mostly with the Cuban Stars (East) (1928–1930), the Azules de Veracruz (1940–1951), and the Águila de Veracruz (1955). He was elected to the Cuban Baseball Hall of Fame in 1959, and the Salón de la Fama del Beisbol Profesional de México in 1964.

Baseball Reference biographical info includes the following: Ramón Bragaña was one of the greatest Cuban pitchers of the 1940s, taking over the title from Dolf Luque, but he was too dark-skinned to get a shot in Major League Baseball. The other candidate for the top Cuban hurler of the era was Martin Dihigo. Bragaña began playing in Cuba's winter league in 1929 and in the summer in the Negro Leagues at about the same time. In '30, he was 5-3 in his first regular playing time. That winter, Bragaña lost a 2-1 pitching duel to Carl Hubbell in Cuba; Bill Terry was 4 for 4 off of Bragana, who allowed 11 hits, but no unearned runs.

In 1937, Bragaña joined many other Negro Leaguers in playing in the Dominican Republic, lured by the money offered by dictator Rafael Trujillo. That winter he again faced some major-leaguers, when the New York Giants came to Cuba. Bragaña won game 3 in Havana by a 6-1 score. Terry said "Ramon Bragaña is just about as great a pitcher as I ever saw. He had speed, a wonderful assortment of curves, and control. Didn't pass a man." Bragaña pitched a 1-1 tie in game 6, lasting 12 innings; in 21 innings against New York Bragaña had allowed 2 runs and 10 hits. Bragana drove in the only run for the Cuban team that game. Terry said that if Bragana were lighter-skinned, he would have signed him for the Giants.

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1641130845

[thatkidfromjerrymaguire]

This set has piqued my interest recently. Interesting mix of Negro League players, Cuban league players, Mexico league players, and American major/minor league players. I picked up this lot of 1945-46 cards on Ebay as a starter lot, and they are pretty cool (and literally paper thin). I've further researched the set and learned about the album, the hard to find last card (collectors had to assemble 99 cards in the album and then they could receive the final card as a premium), and various other facts. The cards are definitely scarce, but overall not crazy expensive (except for the hall of famers, Minnoso, Dandridge, etc.).

Cool set. But I can't decide if I should go "all in" and start chasing it or not. Anyone else currently trying to complete this set?

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[ALR-bishop]

John---thanks for posting the pics. I think you should go all in, complete the set and post them here as you get them

[thatkidfromjerrymaguire]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

John---thanks for posting the pics. I think you should go all in, complete the set and post them here as you get them

Haha...thanks for the feedback.

The only problem is that you all won't get much enjoyment out of watching me build it because I am a V E R Y S L O W set builder. I'm coming up on five years of my 1952 Bowman set build, and those cards are EASY to find. My 1935 Goudey set is coming up on four years, and I'm only 30% done. And my W517 set only gets a new card added about every 6 months.

At those rates, this difficult Caramelo Deportivo set might take me about 50 years

[darkhorse9]

Originally Posted by thatkidfromjerrymaguire

. Anyone else currently trying to complete this set?

I've got 95 of the 100 cards as well as the album. The only ones I'm missing are Ray Dandridge, Raymond Brown, Martin Dihigo and, obviously the Napoleon Rayes.

I haven't decided if or when I'll work on getting the three that would complete the set at 99. Those prices are sky high right now.

[thatkidfromjerrymaguire]

Originally Posted by darkhorse9

I've got 95 of the 100 cards as well as the album. The only ones I'm missing are Ray Dandridge, Raymond Brown, Martin Dihigo and, obviously the Napoleon Rayes.

I haven't decided if or when I'll work on getting the three that would complete the set at 99. Those prices are sky high right now.

Oh, that's awesome!

You didn't mention Minoso...so that must mean you have that one. Hopefully you picked it up PRIOR to his HOF induction, because that card is also REALLY expensive now.

As for the Napoleon Reyes, I've seen pictures of the card, but never actually seen one for sale.

I think in the thread about Cuban cards on the Main page, someone mentioned there are different versions of the Reyes out there, some with text on the front, some without. Talk about scarce!