Gil Hodges vs. Norm Cash

[Peter_Spaeth]

RBIs have a lot to do with who is hitting in front of you. Just ask Albert Pujols.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

perversely I think Cash's monster season hurts him. It set expectations incredibly high and he never approached that level again. Hodges was a model of consistency.

[bbcard1]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

perversely I think Cash's monster season hurts him. It set expectations incredibly high and he never approached that level again. Hodges was a model of consistency.

I always thought that if Vada Pinson's numbers had been more evenly distributed instead of front loaded he would have been inducted long ago.

[SAllen2556]

Even though I'm a Tiger fan, and even though Norm Cash is one of the coolest baseball players in history, I don't think he's a hall-of-famer.

I grew up in the 70's Dave Parker and Steve Garvey and, later, Dale Murphy were 3 mega-stars of the era. If Gil Hodges is in, there's no reason these 3 guys don't get in, is there?

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by SAllen2556

Even though I'm a Tiger fan, and even though Norm Cash is one of the coolest baseball players in history, I don't think he's a hall-of-famer.

I grew up in the 70's Dave Parker and Steve Garvey and, later, Dale Murphy were 3 mega-stars of the era. If Gil Hodges is in, there's no reason these 3 guys don't get in, is there?

I look at how many HOF caliber years a player had, IMO a player needs at least 10. Murphy had 6, Parker had 6 and Garvey had 7. I think its possible 1 or all 3 get in eventually, the HOF is so watered down already.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Jim65

I look at how many HOF caliber years a player had, IMO a player needs at least 10. Murphy had 6, Parker had 6 and Garvey had 7. I think its possible 1 or all 3 get in eventually, the HOF is so watered down already.

As the boat gets heavier, you need more oars.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jim65

I look at how many HOF caliber years a player had, IMO a player needs at least 10. Murphy had 6, Parker had 6 and Garvey had 7. I think its possible 1 or all 3 get in eventually, the HOF is so watered down already.

Is there any Hall that hasn't become watered down over time, I wonder. I was just looking at the NBA and it seems it too is now the hall of very good in many cases.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Is there any Hall that hasn't become watered down over time, I wonder. I was just looking at the NBA and it seems it too is now the hall of very good in many cases.

I guess they all do, the Football HOF is the worst IMO

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Jim65

I look at how many HOF caliber years a player had, IMO a player needs at least 10. Murphy had 6, Parker had 6 and Garvey had 7. I think its possible 1 or all 3 get in eventually, the HOF is so watered down already.

Using that measurement standard, Koufax doesn't belong at all.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by BobC

Using that measurement standard, Koufax doesn't belong at all.

Its just my general guideline. Of course there are exceptions for guys like Koufax, who's peak years are off the charts.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

RBIs have a lot to do with who is hitting in front of you. Just ask Albert Pujols.

This isnt a debate about RBIs, the OP asked why Hodges and not Cash and Hodges' 100 RBI seasons have a lot to do with it, voters like the big numbers and 100 RBI is a big number.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jim65

This isnt a debate about RBIs, the OP asked why Hodges and not Cash and Hodges' 100 RBI seasons have a lot to do with it, voters like the big numbers and 100 RBI is a big number.

Indeed.