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Old 12-06-2021, 03:26 PM
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I was merely a spectator this round, mainly trying to get some sort of comps on a few cards of mine, and I was pleased all the way around!

Here is what I was watching:

1909 T206 Cobb Green PSA 2 - $8,700
1910 E90-2 Wagner SGC 1.5 - $10,200
1915 CJ Cobb SGC 2 - $27,000
1915 CJ Jackson SGC 3 - $52,800 (I seem to get buy requests on this card weekly)

The biggest one that I was biting my nails on was the 1899 M101-1 BVG 2.5 Wagner rookie. It was low teens until later on in the last day, finally fetching $38,400. This is nearly triple what it did when it last sold in 2015, esp. when you take into account the tax paid on this vs. no tax paid back in 2015.

My M101-1 Wagner (though BVG "A") is the nicest looking copy of it I've seen, and ever since I picked it up a year or two ago, it has been that one piece that I always figured had the potential to be a chart topper of some sort. I think future sales will prove me right - it is definitely on the right path! Definitely one of those pieces when I show people, they 1) don't know what it is and 2) are shocked that such a beast exists!

While I would've been much happier with a 100k sale, I'm happy the bvg 2.5 came close to 40k. Such a cool, cool piece!
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Old 12-06-2021, 03:57 PM
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The biggest one that I was biting my nails on was the 1899 M101-1 BVG 2.5 Wagner rookie. It was low teens until later on in the last day, finally fetching $38,400. This is nearly triple what it did when it last sold in 2015, esp. when you take into account the tax paid on this vs. no tax paid back in 2015.

My M101-1 Wagner (though BVG "A") is the nicest copy of it I've seen, and ever since I picked it up a year or two ago, it has been that one piece that I always figured had the potential to be a chart topper of some sort. I think future sales will prove me right - it is definitely on the right path! Definitely one of those pieces when I show people, they 1) don't know what it is and 2) are shocked that such a beast exists!

While I would've been much happier with a 100k sale, I'm happy the bvg 2.5 came close to 40k. Such a cool, cool piece!
Great pickups everyone. Seems like the really great stuff is as strong as ever.

I really like the M101-1 Sorting News Supplements. Not too many of each player out there. I would love to have a Young.

Your Beckett Authentic example is a great looking card, but it is kind of hard to declare it the “best” when it has been restored. I thought that one one in REA was a really nice example and is the only unaltered example that I have seen offered.

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Old 12-06-2021, 05:54 PM
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Great pickups everyone. Seems like the really great stuff is as strong as ever.

I really like the M101-1 Sorting Life Supplements. Not too many of each player out there. I would love to have a Young.

Your Beckett Authentic example is a great looking card, but it is kind of hard to declare it the “best” when it has been restored. I thought that one one in REA was a really nice example and is the only unaltered example that I am aware of.
Thanks! I should clarify that I would never crown mine as the best ... but I would say it might be the nicest looking one I've seen. I don't go after altered stuff much, but when it comes to supplements like this, I'm fine with them.
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Old 12-06-2021, 05:58 PM
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Thanks! I should clarify that I would never crown mine as the best ... but I would say it might be the nicest looking one I've seen. I don't go after altered stuff much, but when it comes to supplements like this, I'm fine with them.
I agree. There is definitely a place for restored cards and memorabilia and your M101-1 Sporting News Wagner is a perfect example of what a skilled restorer can do. Yours looks fantastic.

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Old 12-06-2021, 06:01 PM
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Prices were definitely stout. Seems like a lot of the goofy stuff that went nuts has come back down to earth, and the truly cool stuff is still doing great.

I got the Cy Broad Leaf 460 and T206 Honus ad.
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Prices were definitely stout. Seems like a lot of the goofy stuff that went nuts has come back down to earth, and the truly cool stuff is still doing great.

I got the Cy Broad Leaf 460 and T206 Honus ad.
Nice pick-up in the Cy Broad Leaf 460 Jay! I bid on it a few times yesterday. Awesome card. Glad you got it.

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Prices were definitely stout. Seems like a lot of the goofy stuff that went nuts has come back down to earth, and the truly cool stuff is still doing great.

I got the Cy Broad Leaf 460 and T206 Honus ad.
Great pick ups Jay. That Wagner piece is awesome - let me know if you ever want to trade
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Old 12-06-2021, 06:04 PM
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I agree. There is definitely a place for restored cards and memorabilia and your M101-1 Sporting News Wagner is a perfect example of what a skilled restorer can do. Yours looks fantastic.
I appreciate it! I edited my post so it was more clear I wasn't trying to say mine was the best. That just sounds icky! 😄
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Old 12-06-2021, 10:51 PM
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Great pickups everyone. Seems like the really great stuff is as strong as ever.

I really like the M101-1 Sorting News Supplements. Not too many of each player out there. I would love to have a Young.

Your Beckett Authentic example is a great looking card, but it is kind of hard to declare it the “best” when it has been restored. I thought that one one in REA was a really nice example and is the only unaltered example that I am aware of.
I agree wholeheartedly on both the National Copper Plates (actually predate the Sporting News and the real rookie) and the M101’s, these are simply gorgeous cards when seen in person in nice condition. I have each of the Wagners in my sets of these, the Copper is bound in the original booklet in near perfect condition. The Sporting News is also in strong condition but has some minor wear on close inspection. Both are entirely unaltered.

I am sure it exists, but I have not seen another national copper plate wagner at all in my 33 years of collecting.

They are my favorite sets in my collection.
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Old 12-06-2021, 11:19 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly on both the National Copper Plates (actually predate the Sporting News and the real rookie) and the M101’s, these are simply gorgeous cards when seen in person in nice condition. I have each of the Wagners in my sets of these, the Copper is bound in the original booklet in near perfect condition. The Sporting News is also in strong condition but has some minor wear on close inspection. Both are entirely unaltered.

I am sure it exists, but I have not seen another national copper plate wagner at all in my 33 years of collecting.

They are my favorite sets in my collection.
Those are beautiful. Out of curiosity, what makes you think that the National Copper Plate Wagner predates the M101-1 Sporting News? Both were issued in 1899, correct?

I know that the National Copper Plate cards were issued 1898 and 1899 and the M101-1 Sporting News cards were issued weekly during the 1899 and 1900 seasons, but it seems as though both Wagners were issued in 1899. The M101-1 actually has the exact date of August 19, 1899 printed on it while the National Copper Plate has just 1899 noted.

There has been a National Copper Plate Wagner for what seems like years. I wish that it fit in my collecting budget.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/13216270408...QAAOSwIWVY9VvV

REA also had a real nice bound near set several years ago that had a really nice Wagner in it.

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Old 12-07-2021, 11:30 AM
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Those are beautiful. Out of curiosity, what makes you think that the National Copper Plate Wagner predates the M101-1 Sporting News? Both were issued in 1899, correct?

I know that the National Copper Plate cards were issued 1898 and 1899 and the M101-1 Sporting News cards were issued weekly during the 1899 and 1900 seasons, but it seems as though both Wagners were issued in 1899. The M101-1 actually has the exact date of August 19, 1899 printed on it while the National Copper Plate has just 1899 noted.

There has been a National Copper Plate Wagner for what seems like years. I wish that it fit in my collecting budget.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/13216270408...QAAOSwIWVY9VvV

REA also had a real nice bound near set several years ago that had a really nice Wagner in it.
I acquired the Wagner in that REA lot. I say it predates it because of the player selection difference in the two sets, with Anson and Hoy and others in the copper Plate and then not in the Sporting News, so I am assuming earlier players vs later players despite them being around the same time. I think you can look up the full set lists elsewhere but i could make a more thorough comparison. I think the standard catalogue shows the national copper plate as earlier. Could do more work on that!
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Old 12-07-2021, 11:53 AM
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I acquired the Wagner in that REA lot. I say it predates it because of the player selection difference in the two sets, with Anson and Hoy and others in the copper Plate and then not in the Sporting News, so I am assuming earlier players vs later players despite them being around the same time. I think you can look up the full set lists elsewhere but i could make a more thorough comparison. I think the standard catalogue shows the national copper plate as earlier. Could do more work on that!
Hi Paul - I have a few questions for you and whoever else has interest in the M101-1 Sporting News and National Copper Plate sets, but to not hijack this REA thread, I am going to start a new thread.

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I was merely a spectator this round, mainly trying to get some sort of comps on a few cards of mine, and I was pleased all the way around!

Here is what I was watching:

1909 T206 Cobb Green PSA 2 - $8,700
1910 E90-2 Wagner SGC 1.5 - $10,200
1915 CJ Cobb SGC 2 - $27,000
1915 CJ Jackson SGC 3 - $52,800 (I seem to get buy requests on this card weekly)

The biggest one that I was biting my nails on was the 1899 M101-1 BVG 2.5 Wagner rookie. It was low teens until later on in the last day, finally fetching $38,400. This is nearly triple what it did when it last sold in 2015, esp. when you take into account the tax paid on this vs. no tax paid back in 2015.

My M101-1 Wagner (though BVG "A") is the nicest looking copy of it I've seen, and ever since I picked it up a year or two ago, it has been that one piece that I always figured had the potential to be a chart topper of some sort. I think future sales will prove me right - it is definitely on the right path! Definitely one of those pieces when I show people, they 1) don't know what it is and 2) are shocked that such a beast exists!

While I would've been much happier with a 100k sale, I'm happy the bvg 2.5 came close to 40k. Such a cool, cool piece!
I was the underbidder on the '15 Cobb CJ. I can say (from my own perspective) that I was bidding about $7k over what I thought the value for a '15 CJ Cobb "2" was based on the eye appeal of that Cobb. I think the same can be said for that Jackson - it was a stunner for the technical grade.

I also can't agree more with you about the CJ Jacksons. I average about 5 "would you sell it" requests per month, although most of the unsolicited offers I get on mine are circa 2015 prices. Go figure!
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I also can't agree more with you about the CJ Jacksons. I average about 5 "would you sell it" requests per month, although most of the unsolicited offers I get on mine are circa 2015 prices. Go figure!
I had been looking for a CJ Jackson for so long. Finally was able to snag one in the Heritage auction. Figured I needed to buy now if they keep going up in price and I get priced out.
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I was astounded at the CJ15 price in this auction. It was centered but has some big creases it seemed. Impressive. Hard to tell online all of the details on the cards.

I see fewer CJ Jacksons for sale lately, helping prices when they do come up. Great card.
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I was astounded at the CJ15 price in this auction. It was centered but has some big creases it seemed. Impressive. Hard to tell online all of the details on the cards.

I see fewer CJ Jacksons for sale lately, helping prices when they do come up. Great card.
Agreed. Usually these prices are reserved for the 1914 CJ but with the demand high, the 1914 prices going higher, and low stock it has more people looking at the 1915’s. Plus this one has nice eye appeal
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I was the underbidder on the '15 Cobb CJ. I can say (from my own perspective) that I was bidding about $7k over what I thought the value for a '15 CJ Cobb "2" was based on the eye appeal of that Cobb. I think the same can be said for that Jackson - it was a stunner for the technical grade.

I also can't agree more with you about the CJ Jacksons. I average about 5 "would you sell it" requests per month, although most of the unsolicited offers I get on mine are circa 2015 prices. Go figure!
The Cobb really was a stunner! I'm with you on the Jackson offers, haha. Most are "Would you sell?" I say "Not for sale, but make an offer". The next question "What would you value it at?"
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