T206 Price Opinions.....Elite 12 Question...

Natedog · #1 12-05-2021, 12:49 PM

I don't use VCP, so maybe we're talking about two different cards? This was the card I was looking at:

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/2648068

and

https://www.psacard.com/cert/27252631

It's the only Lundgren "Chicago" that sold in a PWCC auction in March of this year for $175. It's obviously not the Chicago variation, but PWCC listed the card as such, and PSA also incorrectly labeled the card as the Chicago variation.

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Originally Posted by rand1com

Again, the picture VCP posted that linked to the PWCC auction is clearly the Chicago version. You can see the actual card on their site. Not sure how they could link the wrong card.

Exhibitman · #2 12-05-2021, 01:21 PM

Where I run into difficulties is trying to figure a fair value for some of the more obscure back variations, like SC 460/42 overprint or SC 150/649 overprint. T206 Museum suggests 1.3 and 1.4 multipliers, respectively, but there isn't a lot of recent data that I can readily find to see whether these are too large, too small or just right. There are just enough cards in holders that do not list these variations to make the PSA price database unreliable.

rand1com · #3 12-05-2021, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Natedog

I don't use VCP, so maybe we're talking about two different cards? This was the card I was looking at:

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/2648068

and

https://www.psacard.com/cert/27252631

It's the only Lundgren "Chicago" that sold in a PWCC auction in March of this year for $175. It's obviously not the Chicago variation, but PWCC listed the card as such, and PSA also incorrectly labeled the card as the Chicago variation.

You are correct. How silly of me to only look at the PSA flip which showed the Chicago notation and expect it to be correct. The card was indeed the Kansas City version when I actually looked at the card in the slab so your original conclusion was obviously correct.

Jacklitsch · #4 12-05-2021, 02:42 PM

Watching some of the T206 prices on REA. Wow!

Sold out of my T206 way, way too soon.

Natedog · #5 12-05-2021, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rand1com

You are correct. How silly of me to only look at the PSA flip which showed the Chicago notation and expect it to be correct. The card was indeed the Kansas City version when I actually looked at the card in the slab so your original conclusion was obviously correct.

Yeah, at first I thought it was just PWCC's mistake, but it turns out PSA messed up the flip.

As far as value for that front/back combo, it's hard to say. They are quite rare and don't come up for sale very often.

RCFire82 · #6 12-05-2021, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Natedog

Yeah, at first I thought it was just PWCC's mistake, but it turns out PSA messed up the flip.

As far as value for that front/back combo, it's hard to say. They are quite rare and don't come up for sale very often.

Funny you should say that Nate...
Look what just went up on Ebay. Lol. Guess I'll get a good barometer in about 6days 20hrs.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-T206-J...-127632-2357-0

RCFire82 · #7 12-05-2021, 10:25 PM

I guess you guys were referencing the Lundgren...but still, pretty ironic to see the Chesbro just go up.

RCFire82 · #8 12-06-2021, 01:19 PM

Thanks for the input so far gents. I'll definitely be following the end of the Chesbro currently listed.
As far as the Lundgren goes, does the Elite 12 still hold merit? I feel like that was researched a while ago, and at this point I'm wondering if current populations have caught up to more accurately show scarcity or, perhaps, non scarcity? An example being the pop reports for the Lundgren Chicago P350...it's all the way up to 18 (and that's just psa). I feel like some of the other Elite 12 numbers were a little higher than I would have expected as well. It's also interesting there are more Lundgren Chicago's graded than Kansas City...should the premium be the other way around?

Pat R · #9 12-06-2021, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RCFire82

Thanks for the input so far gents. I'll definitely be following the end of the Chesbro currently listed.
As far as the Lundgren goes, does the Elite 12 still hold merit? I feel like that was researched a while ago, and at this point I'm wondering if current populations have caught up to more accurately show scarcity or, perhaps, non scarcity? An example being the pop reports for the Lundgren Chicago P350...it's all the way up to 18 (and that's just psa). I feel like some of the other Elite 12 numbers were a little higher than I would have expected as well. It's also interesting there are more Lundgren Chicago's graded than Kansas City...should the premium be the other way around?

There are a minimum of two that don't belong in the Chicago 350 pop report.

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