Will you get vaccinated against COVID once it's available?

[ibuysportsephemera]

Originally Posted by Huysmans

What's even funnier are people that are told, and can see that numbers are going up DESPITE the vaccine supposedly working, and they STILL live in their delusional "everything I'm being told by the media and government must be 100% correct, and I blindly follow and question nothing despite obvious and glaring contradictions" world.

But yeah, it's the "anti-vaxxers" that are trying to convince themselves lol

Read my previous posts...I am basing my beliefs on Science...has nothing to do with the media or Government. I can clearly tell where you get your facts from (without you even saying it).

Jeff

[ibuysportsephemera]

I'm out...I didn't post here trying to convince anyone to do something that they don't want to do.

I do believe that if you don't want to get the vaccine, you should not be able to go to the hospital to be treated when you get ill. You can't have it both ways.

Jeff

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera

Read my previous posts...I am basing my beliefs on Science...has nothing to do with the media or Government. I can clearly tell where you get your facts from (without you even saying it).

Jeff

Nice try... You mean the "science" on the left that says individuals born as men can also be women?? Is that the real "science" you're referring to?? lol

I say this with all due respect... try thinking for yourself instead of blindly following the media... You'll be MUCH better off...

[irv]

Originally Posted by Huysmans

Hahaha nice rationalization

The vaccine DOESN'T STOP ANYTHING. What's so hard for you to grasp???

Vaccine - a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

Immunity - the ability of an organism to resist a particular infection or toxin by the action of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells.

Keep living in your tiny percentages lol

If the vaccine isn't stopping COVID....it's NOT a vaccine. Use common fucking sense

Yep, so much so, the CDC changed the definition of it (see below)

Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera

I'm out...I didn't post here trying to convince anyone to do something that they don't want to do.

I do believe that if you don't want to get the vaccine, you should not be able to go to the hospital to be treated when you get ill. You can't have it both ways.

Jeff

So, by your analogy, anyone who smokes, drinks, eats unhealthy, is obese/overweight, participates in risky sports/hobbies or doesn't exercise should also not be allowed medical coverage.
Unbelievable, and almost as unbelievable as what you referenced earlier. The guy you know who works for Pfizer and the fact he recommended you get vaccinated. I never would have guessed it. I was certain he would have tried to talk you out of it!!

[ibuysportsephemera]

Just one final thing...Irv...why are you trying so hard? Your posts fill up my 27 inch computer screen.

For all of you that won't get the vaccine, good luck..can you please designate someone to come on here when you are in the hospital on a vent so that we can pray for you.

Back to reading the sports collectibles threads.

Jeff G.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera

Just one final thing...Irv...why are you trying so hard? Your posts fill up my 27 inch computer screen.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Why is the media trying so hard? If you think others are actin6"in your best interest" your sadly mistaken. Unless it is so you can continue to live in order to pay taxes. Then I see your point

[carlsonjok]

Originally Posted by Huysmans

Nice try... You mean the "science" on the left that says individuals born as men can also be women?? Is that the real "science" you're referring to?? lol

I say this with all due respect... try thinking for yourself instead of blindly following the media... You'll be MUCH better off...

I believe he is referring to the sciences of virology and epidemiology, which is completely unrelated to anything having to do with gender or sex. And his position is consistent with the position of the practitioners of those disciplines.

[G1911]

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[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by G1911

I’ll certainly regret this, but I just want to note that appeals to authority are still irrational arguments. Whether it’s one side appealing to Dr. Malone or the other appealing to Dr. Fauci, an argument is not reasonable or unreasonable by the eminence or reputation of one who makes it or supports it, it is reasonable or unreasonable on its foundation, on the logical basis of its supporting facts and evidence, on the merit of itself.

How dare you question His Lordship Doctor Anthony Fauci.

[carlsonjok]

Originally Posted by G1911

I’ll certainly regret this, but I just want to note that appeals to authority are still irrational arguments. Whether it’s one side appealing to Dr. Malone or the other appealing to Dr. Fauci, an argument is not reasonable or unreasonable by the eminence or reputation of one who makes it or supports it, it is reasonable or unreasonable on its foundation, on the logical basis of its supporting facts and evidence, on the merit of itself.

To use a card example, that I am an ‘expert’ on T218 cards does not make my arguments about these cards and their printing any more or less valid than anyone else’s: the validity of our arguments are not because of expertise or claims to such, but is rooted in the merit of our arguments themselves and the evidence.

Furthermore, unlike many fallacious arguments, the appeal to authority does not convince people. There is always another ‘expert’ who can be found to disagree, effectively setting the argument back to square 1. It isn’t compelling, and it’s illogical.

Both sides would be served by recognizing this to some extent.

I don't think you should regret it at all. There is nothing inherently incorrect in what you have said, though I would change your opening sentence to "appeals to authority *may* be irrational arguments."

The issue here, as I see it is that the overwhelming preponderance of research and opinion of actual experts speaks to the efficacy of mRNA vaccines. And while Malone certainly performed some seminal research that led us to mRNA vaccines, there is a tendency to oversell it. The underlying science preceded his groundbreaking work and it has advanced significantly in the 3 decades since.

That isn't to say that a single person standing against the current understanding of a science is necessarily wrong. They may very well be right. But, the case to overturn a scientific paradigm is made in the lab, not on Tucker Carlson.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Huysmans

You mean the "science" on the left that says individuals born as men can also be women??

Go on...