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Old 12-05-2021, 07:08 AM
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I'm a huge Dodgers fan, but unfortunately, as far as stats go, he just wasn't good enough. It's really not even close either.

And as great of a guy as he was, unfortunately, character can't get you into the HOF, it can only keep you out of it.
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Old 12-05-2021, 08:54 AM
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Ask yourself this: what's changed about his record during the FIFTY TWO years he's been eligible?
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What changed about the many guys he received more votes than during his original eligibility who are now in?

Rizzuto,
Schoendienst,
Doerr,
Kell,
Bob Lemon,
Ashburn,
Slaughter,
Mize,
Reese,
Newhouser,
Gordon,
Snider,
Fox,
Roberts,
Mathews etc.
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Old 12-05-2021, 09:23 AM
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According to Baseball Reference these are the batters with the most similar stats. Anyone support Norm Cash?

Similar Batters
Norm Cash (930.3)
George Foster (926.4)
Tino Martinez (918.9)
Jack Clark (911.2)
Edwin Encarnacion (904.0)
Mark Teixeira (901.2)
Boog Powell (899.2)
Rocky Colavito (897.5)
Joe Adcock (895.3)
Lee May (892.9)
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I think with Gil no one is saying his offensive numbers alone are HOF worthy. They are exceptionally good but maybe not Hall worthy. But that you should look at his impact, his Dodger gravitas, his managerial success, i.e., the whole package of the man. And I think his premature death is another factor worthy of consideration.

It's not possible to argue that the only HOF criteria should be raw numbers. We can all debate the other factors, but stats can't be the be all and end all.

Are there any bridges in the United States named after Norm Cash or George Foster? Any elementary schools? I'm guessing no.

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If you like Jim Rice in the HOF you shouldn't mind Norm Cash
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If you like Jim Rice in the HOF you shouldn't mind Norm Cash
Agree the case for Rice was weak, although he did have 8 AS appearances and an MVP -- Cash 4 and none.
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Agree the case for Rice was weak, although he did have 8 AS appearances and an MVP -- Cash 4 and none.
But those aren't number based criteria those are opinion based. By the numbers Cash and Mantle were both better choices than Maris for MVP in 1961. All-Star is a popularity contest.

If you do care for those numbers Hodges had 8 all-stars and 3 Gold gloves (which only started near the end of his career)
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