Eating Crow: GOOD EXPERIENCE w/ sicollector1954; Poor Misunderstanding by Me

[h2oya311]

I’m sorry you had a bad experience, Kyle. Seems the member was willing to step up and refund though, so all is not lost. In fact, some might say that this was a positive experience in that he made things right by refunding, although I don’t doubt at all that this left a sour taste in your mouth.

Communication is key! I’ve certainly had my share of customer returns due to card issues that were undisclosed (often times because I didn’t know about them myself).

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

I’m sorry you had a bad experience, Kyle. Seems the member was willing to step up and refund though, so all is not lost. In fact, some might say that this was a positive experience in that he made things right by refunding, although I don’t doubt at all that this left a sour taste in your mouth.

Communication is key! I’ve certainly had my share of customer returns due to card issues that were undisclosed (often times because I didn’t know about them myself).

The willingness to refund was definitely a positive, although having Goods & Services protection was certainly nice backup.

I went back and forth on posting anything at all, because in the end I'm out essentially nothing except excitement. However, after deciding to move forward with a post, I wanted to be very careful on how I worded the post, juggling the benefit of the doubt with preventing this type of thing from happening in the future.

[vthobby]

I see nothing but a seller who gave you plenty of his time and effort, offered to get some things signed for your kid on his time, and offered you a refund the same day you emailed him.

Yes he "could" have mentioned they were copies but I see no nefarious intent or activity in those emails. I see a gentleman that has a passion for the sport and the history of women's baseball and was excited to help you with your project.

Far from poor. I wish some of my bad experiences were as pleasant as this.

He seems like a pretty cool guy!

Peace, Mike

[earlywynnfan]

FWIW, while the seller could have made it clear that these weren't original photos, I think some of the onus needs to be on the buyer here, too. You aren't ignorant, you've been on the forum for many years. I have no idea how much an original signed photo is, but in no way would I expect to get a whole bunch of 70-year old original signed photos for $50 each. Did you possibly think that at any point? If you wanted originals, you should have asked if they were originals.

[Snapolit1]

Can tell you are very disappointed, but Seller really didn’t handle this poorly at all. To each his own, but not sure this needed to be escalated publicly. Seems like it was a misunderstanding in both sides that was promptly resolved with a minimum of drama.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Can tell you are very disappointed, but Seller really didn’t handle this poorly at all. To each his own, but not sure this needed to be escalated publicly. Seems like it was a misunderstanding in both sides that was promptly resolved with a minimum of drama.

+1 Agreed just sounds like an opportunity to improve communications and learning for us all to ensure complete and clear understanding of the transaction.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Can tell you are very disappointed, but Seller really didn’t handle this poorly at all. To each his own, but not sure this needed to be escalated publicly. Seems like it was a misunderstanding in both sides that was promptly resolved with a minimum of drama.

Having said that, anyone selling photos should conspicuously state that they are copies and not original photos. That’s only fair.

[notfast]

Of course guy issued refund right away. He had no option.

It’s weird to me that people are OK with this and defending the seller when he obviously (and probably intentionally) left out some important facts about the stuff he was selling.

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by notfast

Of course guy issued refund right away. He had no option.

It’s weird to me that people are OK with this and defending the seller when he obviously (and probably intentionally) left out some important facts about the stuff he was selling.

Every seller has an option to refund.....or NOT. Plenty of troubles out there right now with sellers. This guy is not one of the bad guys. If you read all the emails they exchanged you will see that.

I agree that this should not have been made public. The guy refunded him nearly instantly after they talked. Real poor experience! Really? Oh the drama!

Mike

[scooter729]

I don't know either party involved here, but I'm totally with Kyle on this one. You can't advertise signed photos as being 'signed' when they're copies. I would totally expect $50 each for signed photos to be a fair rate - we're not talking Ruth and Gehrig here.

Yeah, he refunded the money, which is great - but seemed like a deceptive selling tactic in the first place. There are cards signed by AAGBPL players on eBay for $10 - $20, so why should $50 for an authentic signed photo seem ridiculous?

Again, glad the seller refunded - but don't love the selling attempt here....

Scott S@r!@n

[notfast]

Originally Posted by vtgmsc

Every seller has an option to refund.....or NOT. Plenty of troubles out there right now with sellers. This guy is not one of the bad guys. If you read all the emails they exchanged you will see that.

I agree that this should not have been made public. The guy refunded him nearly instantly after they talked. Real poor experience! Really? Oh the drama!

Mike

Seller was going to be forced to refund $ by PayPal whether he wanted to or not. His hand would have been forced. Aka “no option”

Seller should properly describe items they’re selling. If that was done, this thread wouldn’t exist.

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

FWIW, while the seller could have made it clear that these weren't original photos, I think some of the onus needs to be on the buyer here, too. You aren't ignorant, you've been on the forum for many years. I have no idea how much an original signed photo is, but in no way would I expect to get a whole bunch of 70-year old original signed photos for $50 each. Did you possibly think that at any point? If you wanted originals, you should have asked if they were originals.

Is $50 a piece the going rate for lower-quality copies of original photos?

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

Is $50 a piece the going rate for lower-quality copies of original photos?

On November 18th at 3:36pm it was.

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

Is $50 a piece the going rate for lower-quality copies of original photos?

Not that I am hurting for money, but $50 for scanned copies is ridiculous. Remind me not buy anything from this rip-off "doing me a favor".

That said, to expect only $50 for any real AAGPBL memorabilia, photos, whatever, is irrational too.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

Is $50 a piece the going rate for lower-quality copies of original photos?

Depends on the players and the desirability. Especially if they are players htat passed a long time ago. They do originate from the home of an actual player, that might put a premium in some eyes.

Were you more interested in the autographs or the photos?