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11-12-2021, 11:37 AM
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1918? White Sox Spring Training Postcard
I picked up this postcard about fifteen years ago and still haven't been able to identify more than about half of the players. I was hoping the group might be of some assistance.
I posted this back when I initially obtained it and it was thought that the photo was taken during spring training of 1918. I am certain of the spring training part, as it was printed in Mineral Wells, Texas, home of White Sox spring training during that era. In addition, it was pulled from a scrapbook belonging to pitcher, Paul Musser. Here's what I am thinking so far: Back: Risberg, Musser, ?, ?, ?, ?, Byrd Lynn Middle: Joe Benz, Ted Jourdan Front: ?, ?, Hervey McClellan, ?, Nemo Leibold, Fred McMullin, ? Any help or opinions would be greatly appreciated. Last edited by JimmyArcher; 11-12-2021 at 12:48 PM. Reason: adding new photo 
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11-12-2021, 12:21 PM
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11-12-2021, 01:22 PM
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Front row, second from left is Felsch.
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11-12-2021, 02:30 PM
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Wonder who that fellow is front row center? Looks like he's wearing one of those fur lined hats with the pull down bill and ear muffs. Must be pretty chilly. Looks like he's wearing some pretty thick round glasses, too.
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11-13-2021, 12:34 AM
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This will be a spoiler to the piece I am working on but here ya go!
Yes this is from the 1918 spring training in Mineral Wells, Tx. This is the 2nd team, called Yannigans. Shano Collins was in charge of the 2nd team and the presence of Fred McMullin aids in dating the time of the picture as he was moved to the 1st team at one point. Here are my IDs which are 100% correct: Top Guy: Guinn Williams 2nd Row (L-R): Swede Risberg, Paul Musser, Shano Collins, Nello Tedschi, Byrd Lynn 3rd Row(L-R): Joe Benz, Ted Jourdan Bottom Row: L-R): Tip O'Neill, Clarence Metz, Hervey McClellan, unknown, Nemo Leibold, Fred McMullin, Unknown* Now who here knows who Guinn Williams was???? He was only in over 100 movies...Big Boy Williams and he was a walk on that helped the Sox out in 1918 and was invited back to train in 1919! Last edited by ThomasL; 11-13-2021 at 12:45 AM.
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11-14-2021, 04:28 PM
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11-14-2021, 09:30 AM
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11-14-2021, 01:37 PM
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11-13-2021, 12:37 AM
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Felsch was on the 1st team the whole camp and at the time this photo was taken was traveling outside Mineral Wells...you can date this photo by tracking when Fred McMullin was on the 2nd team
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11-13-2021, 12:42 AM
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The last man sitting far right might have been a player and if so really could only be one guy, Pat Hargrove, but I dont have a good comp photo of him so hard to tell. This photo was taken after the 1st team left Mineral Wells as the presence of McMullin narrows the time frame as he was on the 1st team, moved to the 2nd team (which this photo is of) and then moved back to the 1st team. Newspapers give clear rosters of both teams throughout camp.
Really been trying to ID this guy...if it is a player I think it can only be Pat Hargrove as he was who was sent to replace McMullin on the second team I have 3 1918 spring training photos with mystery guy(s) in them...I will attach a composite of all three mystery guy(s)... Last edited by ThomasL; 11-13-2021 at 01:50 AM.
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