This is what's wrong with the average ebay buyer

[pbspelly]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Utilizing that feature was an option for sellers last time I checked.

Perhaps it shouldn't be an option. I'm sure others here might disagree, but Ebay ought to be for buying and selling items, not displaying them for five years with the remote possibility that maybe some idiot will come along and pay five times what it's worth

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by pbspelly

Perhaps it shouldn't be an option. I'm sure others here might disagree, but Ebay ought to be for buying and selling items, not displaying them for five years with the remote possibility that maybe some idiot will come along and pay five times what it's worth

Shouldn’t be an option or shouldn’t be optional?

[pbspelly]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Shouldn’t be an option or shouldn’t be optional?

I was suggesting that it should be a policy, not something sellers could decide to do or not do. But, of course, if that was the case, sellers could simply post the item as a new listing rather than a relist. Perhaps eBay could charge one commission/listing fee for a new listing and a lower commission/listing fee for a relist at a reduced price. That would incentivize sellers to lower the price after a non-sale, but not necessarily require it.

People say why do you care? Just ignore the ones at ridiculous prices. But the issue I have is that I have to wade through tons of listings (and automatic email notices of "new" listings that I get in my in box every day) for items that the seller really doesn't want to sell. It makes it harder to find genuine listings and actually discourages me (and other potential buyers) from looking. It is more than just a tiny inconvenience or I wouldn't care about it.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by pbspelly

I was suggesting that it should be a policy, not something sellers could decide to do or not do. But, of course, if that was the case, sellers could simply post the item as a new listing rather than a relist. Perhaps eBay could charge one commission/listing fee for a new listing and a lower commission/listing fee for a relist at a reduced price. That would incentivize sellers to lower the price after a non-sale, but not necessarily require it.

People say why do you care? Just ignore the ones at ridiculous prices. But the issue I have is that I have to wade through tons of listings (and automatic email notices of "new" listings that I get in my in box every day) for items that the seller really doesn't want to sell. It makes it harder to find genuine listings and actually discourages me (and other potential buyers) from looking. It is more than just a tiny inconvenience or I wouldn't care about it.

Agreed that the concept of the tiered pricing is good and the policy changes needed.
Agreed that it sucks wading thru the BS listings
Sadly I do not believe that Ebay will change the policy. Unless they are reading this thread of course

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by pbspelly

Perhaps it shouldn't be an option. I'm sure others here might disagree, but Ebay ought to be for buying and selling items, not displaying them for five years with the remote possibility that maybe some idiot will come along and pay five times what it's worth

Sellers like to have the autonomy to set whatever price they want, especially for offbeat or unique items. I even know some guys who will list stuff at a price beyond market because they don't actually want to sell; their wives demanded a sale effort. Any sort of automatic markdown rule would make the site less friendly for many sellers. I know I would not tolerate it. It would just be one more nuisance policy to circumvent.

If someone wants to operate a card museum, let them.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Sellers like to have the autonomy to set whatever price they want, especially for offbeat or unique items. I even know some guys who will list stuff at a price beyond market because they don't actually want to sell; their wives demanded a sale effort. Any sort of automatic markdown rule would make the site less friendly for many sellers. I know I would not tolerate it. It would just be one more nuisance policy to circumvent.

If someone wants to operate a card museum, let them.

If your wife is demanding an ROI on an investment that she's not seven interested in, namely your hobby, you have bigger problems than some idiot buyer trying to hammer you down.

[ValKehl]

I really like the new eBay PWE First Class shipping method because I get to print a shipping label with a USPS tracking #, I receive a discount on the postage, and I no longer need to pay the non-machinable surcharge. What's not to like?

I put the card sold in a card saver and sandwich it between 2 pieces of cardboard cut slightly smaller than the PWE. Obviously, the cardboard has to be relatively thin in order not to exceed the 1/4" maximum thickness. I usually use cardboard that I cut to size from empty dry cereal boxes (I have an endless supply of such boxes, as I eat dry cereal for breakfast 90+% of the time!). The cardboard on some dry cereal boxes is so thin that I can use 3 pieces for a stiffener sandwich and not exceed the 1/4" limit.

[Mike D.]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

I really like the new eBay PWE First Class shipping method because I get to print a shipping label with a USPS tracking #, I receive a discount on the postage, and I no longer need to pay the non-machinable surcharge. What's not to like?

I put the card sold in a card saver and sandwich it between 2 pieces of cardboard cut slightly smaller than the PWE. Obviously, the cardboard has to be relatively thin in order not to exceed the 1/4" maximum thickness. I usually use cardboard that I cut to size from empty dry cereal boxes (I have an endless supply of such boxes, as I eat dry cereal for breakfast 90+% of the time!). The cardboard on some dry cereal boxes is so thin that I can use 3 pieces for a stiffener sandwich and not exceed the 1/4" limit.

I do the same…or sometimes use an old Donruss puzzle piece as the backer.

I sell cards cheap, and new top loaders are like 35 cents each shipped…so I stopped using top loaders for low value cards once my stash ran out.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Sellers like to have the autonomy to set whatever price they want, especially for offbeat or unique items. I even know some guys who will list stuff at a price beyond market because they don't actually want to sell; their wives demanded a sale effort. Any sort of automatic markdown rule would make the site less friendly for many sellers. I know I would not tolerate it. It would just be one more nuisance policy to circumvent.

If someone wants to operate a card museum, let them.

I know a few friends that do that. Ebay is still the wild wild west a little bit. It's like a box of chocolates....you never know what you are going to get.
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[ballparks]

Originally Posted by pbspelly

Perhaps it shouldn't be an option. I'm sure others here might disagree, but Ebay ought to be for buying and selling items, not displaying them for five years with the remote possibility that maybe some idiot will come along and pay five times what it's worth

If they put a 1% listing fee for every time something was listed (waived if sold), these imbeciles that list $150 tickets for $9000 will stop their practice of trying to rip people off and screw the hobby. I fully agree.