Best lefty off all time? My vote is Koufax!

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by G1911

Because he's KOUFAX. Logical consistency doesn't matter. Math doesn't matter. Context doesn't matter. He's KOUFAX. It's irrelevant that Spahn pitched 11 of Sandy's 12 years, Spahn and Grove must be dismissed as pitchers of antiquity, for the dominant pitcher of modernity, Koufax, who hasn't pitched in 55 seasons. But even though our argument centers on defining the best of "all time" as the best of an arbitrarily and completely inconsistently decided modernity (hence, it's not really of "all time", now is it?), we will dismiss Kershaw too, who is the obvious choice if the modernity argument is made sincerely because....

Well I'm sure there's a super advanced statistical argument you and I are too stupid to understand, even though no actual statistical argument has been given, simply a series of fallacies, references to common unadjusted statistics that are then walked back, and an appeal to statistical authority.

You're an idiot.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Snowman

You're an idiot.

I agree with this analysis frequently. I don't know a whole lot, but I do recognize an absurd, fallacious argument when it's really, really obvious.

[tiger8mush]

Best Career LHP = Grove.
Best in my lifetime = Randy Johnson, with Kershaw #2.

If we're discussing the hypothetical World Series game 7 - Whitey Ford's "peak" was his 33 & 2/3 consecutive scoreless World Series innings between 1960-1962. So unless this game goes 34+ innings he's my guy

[Bigdaddy]

I once had a guy that worked for me. After writing a conference paper but before turning it in for publication, he said "There is no one in the organization that is qualified to review my work." Strange thing is, no one in the organization would work with him. He had burned all the bridges and left scorched earth in his path. I'm getting that same feeling here.

Boys, this was a simple question from the OP. If there was a single definitive answer, then there would be no debate. But we each define 'best' by our own standards; some may regard longevity and consistency as key factors, others may regard a five or eight or ten year peak as the key metric. Or still others may revere strikeouts as king, or wins, or WAR or ERA+ or whatever you want. But I will wager this - If you asked 25 major league managers and GMs who they would choose for their top left handed pitcher for their expansion team, there will definitely be more than one answer. That, is what is great about baseball - the thread that goes from Kershaw through Johnson through Koufax through Spahn and to Grove. We can have these discussions, debates even, and everyone gets their say.

Now, who is the 'best' looking actress in Hollywood? Remember, there is only one right answer.

[G1911]

Love the 62 Highlights of Ford.

He's not my pick for number 1, but he has to be high up there. I picked up this "card" for a whopping $5 shipped a couple days ago on eBay. Hard to beat the eye appeal of the image and 363 career wins for the cost of a fast food burger.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by G1911

Love the 62 Highlights of Ford.

He's not my pick for number 1, but he has to be high up there. I picked up this "card" for a whopping $5 shipped a couple days ago on eBay. Hard to beat the eye appeal of the image and 363 career wins for the cost of a fast food burger.

Very nice! Those Auravision records have some unbelievable images. Have always marveled at how the colors just seem to jump out at you, and the clarity is just truly amazing. And the best part, as you noted, you can still get them for relatively next to nothing.

Have always felt they are way underappreciated, and get virtually no love.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

I once had a guy that worked for me. After writing a conference paper but before turning it in for publication, he said "There is no one in the organization that is qualified to review my work." Strange thing is, no one in the organization would work with him. He had burned all the bridges and left scorched earth in his path. I'm getting that same feeling here.

Boys, this was a simple question from the OP. If there was a single definitive answer, then there would be no debate. But we each define 'best' by our own standards; some may regard longevity and consistency as key factors, others may regard a five or eight or ten year peak as the key metric. Or still others may revere strikeouts as king, or wins, or WAR or ERA+ or whatever you want. But I will wager this - If you asked 25 major league managers and GMs who they would choose for their top left handed pitcher for their expansion team, there will definitely be more than one answer. That, is what is great about baseball - the thread that goes from Kershaw through Johnson through Koufax through Spahn and to Grove. We can have these discussions, debates even, and everyone gets their say.

Now, who is the 'best' looking actress in Hollywood? Remember, there is only one right answer.

Elizabeth Hurley!
See, that one was easy!!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Elizabeth Hurley!
See, that one was easy!!

Are you talking about just her peak, or her career?

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Elizabeth Hurley!
See, that one was easy!!

Not so fast. Elvira had a better WHiP.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

Now, who is the 'best' looking actress in Hollywood? Remember, there is only one right answer.

The first one that says yes!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Snowman

You're an idiot.

Couldn't even keep your promise, could you? Post #740 you said you were done here, but it is only Post #747 and you're already back. Oh joy! So you lied about that. Not surprising, goes well with also being a hypocrite.

And besides not answering people's questions, belittling other's knowledge and opinions, completely ignoring common sense and logic in making arguments that are based on completely out of context situations, with this latest post you've now stooped to unwarranted insults.......well done!!!

I'm beginning to understand how you could be asked to leave another forum like Blowout...urrr, I'm sorry, Blowhard as you call it. Additionally, makes me wonder if the people over on that forum would consider your comments as a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

And no need to respond, would be happy to see you go back to keeping your promise.