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Old 11-05-2021, 07:14 PM
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With everything Buck O’Neal did for baseball, he is a clear no brained to get in.
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Old 11-05-2021, 07:45 PM
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I wonder if the folks who want to see Lefty inducted are prepared for the hundreds of players who would have to follow logically from it.

We could start with Josh Hamilton whose career is super similar. Check out the counting stats. Lefty had about four really nice years playing in the best hitters park in baseball history in the best hitters era in baseball history. He won two batting titles. Hamilton had a few great years in a less favorable hitters era and won a batting title and an rbi title. Plus an MVP.


Jeff Burroughs will have to be next.... sorry but I think Lefty would be a travesty.
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Old 11-05-2021, 08:02 PM
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Andres Gallaraga!!

O Doul basically had three amazing years. I leave it to others whether to consider his achievements in Japan and in the PCL, but on the basis of his MLB record, no.
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It would never happen, but a Fix the Hall Committee would be good, they could meet every 10 years and vote a few out of the Hall. I'd start with voting Kirby Puckett out.

I'm actually an O'Doul fan, but I'd be ok if he didn't get in. Ditto for Dahlen.

I'm a Cardinals fan for the last 59 years, I saw Boyer play in 1963 and after. He was a stable rock for the Cards, Played well in Center Field and at Third Base. Good with hit and run; but they didn't often try that because he had some power and was a solid RBI guy... And with all of that said, in my estimation he shouldn't get in.

Jim Kaat should get in.

Josh Hamilton should get in 363 days a year (I think the Hall is closed 2 days a year), after he's paid admission; he shouldn't get inducted. Ever.

If it were up to me, Kaat gets in and the rest stay out. If they keep adding and adding players then it gradually becomes the Hall of above average baseball players. It'll be a bigass building.
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Old 11-05-2021, 08:28 PM
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It would never happen, but a Fix the Hall Committee would be good, they could meet every 10 years and vote a few out of the Hall. I'd start with voting Kirby Puckett out.

I'm actually an O'Doul fan, but I'd be ok if he didn't get in. Ditto for Dahlen.

I'm a Cardinals fan for the last 59 years, I saw Boyer play in 1963 and after. He was a stable rock for the Cards, Played well in Center Field and at Third Base. Good with hit and run; but they didn't often try that because he had some power and was a solid RBI guy... And with all of that said, in my estimation he shouldn't get in.

Jim Kaat should get in.

Josh Hamilton should get in 363 days a year (I think the Hall is closed 2 days a year), after he's paid admission; he shouldn't get inducted. Ever.

If it were up to me, Kaat gets in and the rest stay out. If they keep adding and adding players then it gradually becomes the Hall of above average baseball players. It'll be a bigass building.
And the farther down the list you go, the harder it becomes to justify saying no, IMO. If Kaat is in, why not Tommy John, very similar career? Why not Tiant, at his peak better than either of them? If Dick Allen is in, why not Albert Belle, why not Dale Murphy?
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All good options but if I had to vote for one name on the list, it would be for Lefty.
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I think O'Neil (as a contributor) and Dahlen are the best bets from the Early Era ballot. Donaldson and O'Doul would figure to have good chances as well. I'd be shocked if at least 2 Negro Leaguers weren't picked. I'm surprised Harry Stovey wasn't a finalist again as he came close last time around. Alejandro Oms was another surprising omission.

As for the Golden Days ballot, I think Minoso is a lock and Dick Allen and Tony Oliva have great shots as well. Hodges and Boyer haven't come close to election for a long time, but maybe this is their year. Kaat just strikes me as a player who will forever be nominated, but not enshrined.
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