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[thatkidfromjerrymaguire]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

This is not meant to be sarcastic. I see folks say they usually or only collect “vintage”, or they are a “vintage” collector. Is there a hobby norm for what constitutes vintage or is it like the term “variation”, everyone has their own definition ?

That’s actually a good question. I think many collectors (such as myself) would say vintage stops and modern starts around 1980 or 1981 when print runs started to skyrocket, Fleer and Donruss entered the picture, etc.

I think that is the most commonly accepted definition (as evidenced by the thread categories and BST sections here on Net54).

But I’m sure there are many that disagree and include more or less years in their definition of vintage.

If someone considers 1991 donruss as vintage (because it’s now 30 years old) I wouldn’t have a problem with that.

(I can’t believe 1991 Donruss is 30 years old!!! )

[hockeyhockey]

Originally Posted by thatkidfromjerrymaguire

That’s actually a good question. I think many collectors (such as myself) would say vintage stops and modern starts around 1980 or 1981 when print runs started to skyrocket, Fleer and Donruss entered the picture, etc.

I think that is the most commonly accepted definition (as evidenced by the thread categories and BST sections here on Net54).

But I’m sure there are many that disagree and include more or less years in their definition of vintage.

If someone considers 1991 donruss as vintage (because it’s now 30 years old) I wouldn’t have a problem with that.

(I can’t believe 1991 Donruss is 30 years old!!! )

my definition of vintage is anything that i understand. once all those crazy parallels and prizms and refractors and other stuff began popping up, it was too confusing

[todeen]

Originally Posted by hockeyhockey

my definition of vintage is anything that i understand. once all those crazy parallels and prizms and refractors and other stuff began popping up, it was too confusing

I agree with this. But would Tiffany sets be considered parallels? Is Desert Shield a parallel? There is also the 1992 Topps Gold Winners. Certainly Topps Gold would be a parallel, and the Rockies and Marlins 1993 inaugural would be parallels although they were only in complete set format. So that still means to me that somewhere in the 80s is the cutoff between vintage and modern. To me, the start of modern would be the superior card stock of 1989 UD.

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[homerunderby]

Originally Posted by thatkidfromjerrymaguire

That’s actually a good question. I think many collectors (such as myself) would say vintage stops and modern starts around 1980 or 1981 when print runs started to skyrocket, Fleer and Donruss entered the picture, etc.

I think that is the most commonly accepted definition (as evidenced by the thread categories and BST sections here on Net54).

But I’m sure there are many that disagree and include more or less years in their definition of vintage.

If someone considers 1991 donruss as vintage (because it’s now 30 years old) I wouldn’t have a problem with that.

(I can’t believe 1991 Donruss is 30 years old!!! )

It's a great question! When I was starting out "vintage" was commonly regarded as pre-1974, meaning the time when cards were issued in series. Personally that's my definition, but at the same time I've been doing this 40+ years so I can respect if people who are new to the hobby regard vintage as anything 20th century.

[philliesfan]

Yes a good question. I agree with the poster above that says vintage is 1980 and earlier.
Bob

[Mike D.]

Back to the original post - I think there’s some potential fun/value in older but not old boxes…if you do a little research you can sometimes find a deal on boxes 2-10 years old.

But generally speaking, the boxes that are worth more open than sealed are few and far between. So, figure in “entertainment value” when looking at prices.

[Vegas-guy]

Thanks for all the replies. Like many, I started collecting in mid 80's so I consider anything pre 1970 as Vintage.