Submitting cards for graded review at PSA

[Foo3112]

PSA is not a fan of bumping cards. It's not impossible but it certainly is a long shot. Its pretty much like them admitting fault and we all know how PSA runs their forums, you don't agree, you get banned. The best chance for anyone who feels that strongly that their card deserves to get a bump would be to crack out and submit raw.

[MattyC]

PSA as I understand it has greatly shifted their stance on reviews, and are no longer looking to admit they screwed up the first time. What's more, to discourage cracking and resubbing, they will run a card through a new recognition process that will tell them if it has been graded before— at which point if no doctoring is detected they'll presumably put it in the same grade it was in prior.

Apparently some of the new powers that be realized how it undermines their brand, for cards to get many different grades from the same company over the course of many resubmissions and reviews. Too bad this stance is powerless to erase the millions of times in history that millions of cards have been graded multiple times, receiving several different grades.

They can try and set their opinion is stone, as it were, but end of the day as Jeff Lebowski put it, "That's just like, their opinion, man." And opinions being like a$$holes...we all know how that saying goes. Sure, in this case their opinion can be worth a lot of money, but the good news there is that the collectors who comprise the market often now pay premiums for eye appeal, and so undergraded cards get their due.

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by MattyC

but the good news there is that the collectors who comprise the market often now pay premiums for eye appeal, and so undergraded cards get their due.

This!

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by MattyC

the good news there is that the collectors who comprise the market often now pay premiums for eye appeal, and so undergraded cards get their due.

Well, sorta. This card was probably worth about $17-18k per PSA 7 comps at the time of the sale, and while it did sell for a slight premium above that at $19.5k due to the eye appeal, it didn't approach anywhere near what it would fetch in the 8 holder it belongs in IMO. An 8 would put this card at $50k. Pretty big difference there.

[Snowman]

As far as the grade bump goes, I don't see them giving this a 7.5. It's much more likely to get an 8 or rejected than it is to get a 7.5. The .5 bumps are generally only given out for centering eye-appeal with PSA, though not always. SGC might give it a 7.5, but not PSA. Either way though, this card is as good or better than every single 1961 Fleer PSA 8 I've been able to find in my research so far of both Wilt and Oscar. I really do think they got this one wrong. They've been remarkably harsh in recent months, especially with vintage. My hope is that submitting it for review means it makes it to the desk of someone like Reza or Steve, but perhaps that's wishful thinking? I don't know.