PSA has a new president

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

I like it!!!

Did you read Kevin's various posts on Blowout a couple weeks back?

[Rich Klein]

Peter:

Copy those links and send them over please to this side of the highways

Rich

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Did you read Kevin's various posts on Blowout a couple weeks back?

No. Could you please send a link?

[Peter_Spaeth]

On a number of posts, he went back the next day and significantly edited what he had said. Start with 129 which is Kevin.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...1457205&page=6

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

On a number of posts, he went back the next day and significantly edited what he had said. Start with 129 which is Kevin.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...1457205&page=6

Thanks Peter I'm going to read now.

[butchie_t]

PSA appears to be a company in regression right in the middle of a maelstrom as it pertains to their grading practices.

This does not look good for their supposed iron grip on the grading race.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

On a number of posts, he went back the next day and significantly edited what he had said. Start with 129 which is Kevin.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...1457205&page=6

Thanks for the link Peter. I can already tell this will be a shitshow - the poor judgement it took to go on blowout and take on BODA is likely a harbinger of things to come. That dude was dead meat the minute he posted.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Thanks for the link Peter. I can already tell this will be a shitshow - the poor judgement it took to go on blowout and take on BODA is likely a harbinger of things to come. That dude was dead meat the minute he posted.

I wasn't impressed with his answers to my questions, to the extent he even answered. Oh well.

[taul166]

It was probably only a matter of time before another shoe dropped after Joe Orlando departed. Wouldn't be surprised if there are more personnel changes in key positions. Didn't they hire several other VP level folks under the Orlando regime. Some of those folks may be next to be moved to other positions that are not part of any sort of inner circle, or they might become become frustrated and leave because their input is not valued or solicited.

[MattyC]

Third party grading, led by PSA, has been a shitshow from the get-go. The emperor is seen without clothes the second one considers how you send in a card, it gets grade X. Crack and send it back in, it gets grade Y. Review it, it gets grade Z. A grade from them is just one opinion on one day. A snapshot in time. On another day, with another grader, get another opinion. End of the day, it's just strikes and balls being called by different umps on different days. Heck, sometimes the same ump can't even be consistent within the same game. That's grading.

Which makes the only thing crazier the guys who put that sticker and slab on such a pedestal instead of using their own two God-given eyes to determine what looks best to them. Every time some PSA 9 with, let's call it sub-optimal eye appeal, sets some price record at an AH, it boggles my mind.

I hear they are now photographing every card and running at least high value submissions through some kind of recognition software so that cards cannot be cracked and resubbed to get a better grade. That will certainly help curtail doctoring, which is a good thing at least. But for those undergraded cards out there, it also freezes them in undeserving grades.

I always found it a silly and wrong case of over correction, that in some misguided attempt to compensate for overgraded cards in past eras, PSA decided to be overly harsh now and put 8s in 7 holders, etc. I used to think it was to foster regrades and reviews as a revenue stream, as well as control population (an aspect covered in some informative videos online). Whatever the motivation, the result is a tremendous degree of inconsistency in slabbed cards out there. You so often see two cards in the same PSA grade, and one just blows away the other. Again, just reveals how chaotic and silly it all is— the serious amounts of money thrown at PSA slabs notwithstanding.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Thanks for the link Peter. I can already tell this will be a shitshow - the poor judgement it took to go on blowout and take on BODA is likely a harbinger of things to come. That dude was dead meat the minute he posted.

I disagree. His going on Blowout would be considered "poor judgement" only from the perspective of an executive putting himself on the spot and having challenging questions thrown at him. Since he's been a member at Blowout since 2015, he's seen all the evidence of card doctoring they have amassed. He knew that by posting there, he'd get the really tough questions.

But he chose to, anyway. I would call that sincere, as opposed to calculated.

I wouldn't write him off instantly - give him some time and see what he does or doesn't do to address issues raised. Overall I was impressed he was willing to walk into that hornets' nest in the first place, and I think it unreasonable to expect instantaneous action from a guy who just took over his new role at PSA.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Mark17

I disagree. His going on Blowout would be considered "poor judgement" only from the perspective of an executive putting himself on the spot and having challenging questions thrown at him. Since he's been a member at Blowout since 2015, he's seen all the evidence of card doctoring they have amassed. He knew that by posting there, he'd get the really tough questions.

But he chose to, anyway. I would call that sincere, as opposed to calculated.

I wouldn't write him off instantly - give him some time and see what he does or doesn't do to address issues raised. Overall I was impressed he was willing to walk into that hornets' nest in the first place, and I think it unreasonable to expect instantaneous action from a guy who just took over his new role at PSA.

I generally agree with your post, except that I feel like he is in a no-win situation posting and can only make things worse. The intent is no doubt good, but it’s a lynch mob over there (deservingly so), and nothing he says, and most things he does not say (see Peter’s post), will be construed negatively. Trying to appease a lynch mob gets you hung. I value my neck.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

I generally agree with your post, except that I feel like he is in a no-win situation posting and can only make things worse. The intent is no doubt good, but it’s a lynch mob over there (deservingly so), and nothing he says, and most things he does not see (see Peter’s post), will be construed negatively. Trying to appease a lynch mob gets you hung. I value my neck.

Agree.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

I generally agree with your post, except that I feel like he is in a no-win situation posting and can only make things worse. The intent is no doubt good, but it’s a lynch mob over there (deservingly so), and nothing he says, and most things he does not see (see Peter’s post), will be construed negatively. Trying to appease a lynch mob gets you hung. I value my neck.

I think my questions were fair, if pointed. HE chose to come on as the company spokesman, and if you do that people have a right to ask questions.