The hobby is surely passing me by

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Tabe

I didn't say the image as drawn was racist. But, facts are facts - Pepe the Frog has been co-opted as a symbol of white supremacists.

That only matters to people who:
1. Give white supremacists any credibility whatsoever
2. People who want to keep racial tensions strong by finding racism wherever they look.

For me, I give white supremacists zero credibility and I likewise give race baiters zero credibility. The goal should be for us to find common ground and unity, not constantly look to group people based on race, then pit those groups against each other.

Pepe is a frog. Period. I don't care if terrorists worship him or some other group sews his image in their leather jackets, the cartoon is a frog.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Pepe is a frog. Period. I don't care if terrorists worship him or some other group sews his image in their leather jackets, the cartoon is a frog.

I generally agree with you. That said, even Leon admits that he thinks some benign symbols are objectionable. What's the line?

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Tabe

I generally agree with you. That said, even Leon admits that he thinks some benign symbols are objectionable. What's the line?

Whatever white supremacists do, say, or use as a symbol should be 100% irrelevant to every sane person on earth and beyond.

If Charles Manson had a Yogi Bear tattoo, would that mean Yogi was "co-opted" and Yogi cartoons were suddenly racist?

[BobbyStrawberry]

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[Leon]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

That's a nice line of escapist thought, but the Department of Homeland Security, Attorney General and FBI beg to differ:


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/12/u...remacists.html


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1810615.html

Probably need your full name out here to say someone feels a certain way. Read the rule at the top of the page in bold......thanks

And I also don't give those people any cred. Law enforcement does because they get to deal with them. I don't have to and won't and I don't care what extremists say. It's a frog.

[ALR-bishop]

https://video.search.yahoo.com/searc...i=uoMQw3iHDoIR

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Leon

Probably need your full name out here to say someone feels a certain way. Read the rule at the top of the page in bold......thanks

And I also don't give those people any cred. Law enforcement does because they get to deal with them. I don't have to and won't and I don't care what extremists say. It's a frog.

Hi Leon, I'd rather not do that here, so I'll just delete the prior post. Thanks for clarifying

[Peter_Spaeth]

Can we all agree it's appropriate to remove statues of Thomas Jefferson?

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Can we all agree it's appropriate to remove statues of Thomas Jefferson?

If the criteria you base that on is what I assume, Washington would be next.

Imagine that poor football team.

Washington Redskins to
Washington Football Team to
Football Team.

Political correctness: dismantling history and tradition one piece at a time.

[Exhibitman]

Nevermind all this political bullshit, the World Series is starting!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Mark17

If the criteria you base that on is what I assume, Washington would be next.

Imagine that poor football team.

Washington Redskins to
Washington Football Team to
Football Team.

Political correctness: dismantling history and tradition one piece at a time.

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/19/10472...ouncil-chamber

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Can we all agree it's appropriate to remove statues of Thomas Jefferson?

Historians are pretty sure he did a lot of stuff that would at least get him fired pretty much anywhere.

Same with many of the founding fathers.

But aside from starting a new country what they did wasn't all that unusual for the time they lived.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by steve B

Historians are pretty sure he did a lot of stuff that would at least get him fired pretty much anywhere.

Same with many of the founding fathers.

But aside from starting a new country what they did wasn't all that unusual for the time they lived.

The same may be true for some great civil rights leaders. Whatever.