Early 80s wax question

[Statfreak101]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

Wow - I've done some looking and I have to admit, it sounds like you're right. Personally, it does seem like he's lost his life to this machine he's created, which is sad.

On the breaking side, I saw the break he did with the '79 box - I knew quickly they were all from the same sheet so all the people, and him, complaining that BBCE had given him a searched box was hard to take.

Or how about the 1972 BBCE OPC box that he ripped that ended up being a gum stained disaster (who knew that could happen?!) and then blaming BBCE for it and demanding a refund?

Jabs sucks.

[deweyinthehall]

I watched that one too. These breaks can be fun to watch but you have to know it's like playing the lottery and you might get burned.

During the 1979 box break when the commenters were about to take up torches and pitchforks and storm the gates at BBCE, I posted something like "if this box had been cut just from the Ozzie Smith sheet, and produced 7 or 8 mint Ozzies, I doubt people would be saying that BBCE got hosed and Jabs should pay him a little extra something".

[Rich Klein]

The early Fleer cards are almost always perfectly collated. Fleer did a great job of getting you most of the set in a box.

I opened enough of the Fleer boxes to say they were good and 1981 Donruss was hilariously bad. You could get 10-16 of the same card in the box and multiple of that occurance

They did improve but it took a couple of years. About 10 years ago I opened a 1982 Donruss box and got 5 Ripken RC's out of the box but none of them were even centered better than 70/30. Distribution in that box was more like the 2nd go round of 81. Took till about 1984 to get better on their collation

Rich

[judsonhamlin]

And I think that 1981 Fleer vending boxes were set up in an A-B-C-D pattern that would get you 3 complete sets out of one set of 4 boxes.

[mikemb]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

The early Fleer cards are almost always perfectly collated. Fleer did a great job of getting you most of the set in a box.

I opened enough of the Fleer boxes to say they were good and 1981 Donruss was hilariously bad. You could get 10-16 of the same card in the box and multiple of that occurance

They did improve but it took a couple of years. About 10 years ago I opened a 1982 Donruss box and got 5 Ripken RC's out of the box but none of them were even centered better than 70/30. Distribution in that box was more like the 2nd go round of 81. Took till about 1984 to get better on their collation

Rich

Exactly as I remember it. Bought many unopened boxes of 1981 cards in 1981. Fleer had great collation and Donruss was terrible. I think I got 3 boxes and was not even close to a complete set.

Originally Posted by judsonhamlin

And I think that 1981 Fleer vending boxes were set up in an A-B-C-D pattern that would get you 3 complete sets out of one set of 4 boxes.

This is also what I have heard.

Mike

[steve B]

Originally Posted by judsonhamlin

And I think that 1981 Fleer vending boxes were set up in an A-B-C-D pattern that would get you 3 complete sets out of one set of 4 boxes.

That's entirely true. I spent a couple afternoons making up sets for the local shop from the "set/vending" case. Got a few dollars in trade value.

[Chicosbailbonds]

As a Cub fan, I remember opening the first two boxes of 81 Donruss and getting ONE Cub - the manager. It was common to get duplicates in the same pack. I would be leery of opening it today as the paper is thin, and the gum was gooey. I could see it bleeding thru 4-5 cards.

[Chicosbailbonds]

Just watched the posted video, yup, that’s 81 donruss. I still like the set, warts and all. Brings back good memories since the pics were mainly from Chicago.