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That card looks weird. Like they drew him with too much makeup. The other Wagner is the the one at the Baseball HOF.
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You can blow up a Jordan Photograph 20x but this Wagner can only blow up 1.25x ... why??
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This one doesn't even have a crease. First $3 million takes it.
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Nft
Make this an NFT and you might get your asking price!
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We have the McNall-Gretzky Wagner and the Jumbo Wagner. Will this one be known as the Jimmy Durante Wagner?
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If restoration can preserve and is disclosed then I can accept to some degree. My issue is the artist did a very poor job. The nose, cleft, left eye and right cheek entirely change the appearance. It's very poorly done. Do we know who the artist/restorer was?
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why didn't they just rebuild the borders too while they were at it?
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Not saying I like it at all. The Wagner is hardly a "card" any longer and has transcended the hobby for decades. I don't really care that it is restored just wish they at least hired an artist worth a sh*t. It now looks like a Simpsons character.
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That Card will continue to Be the Holy Grail of Cards to many collectors for decades to come. Of Course we do not know the reserve but I hope it does sell and changes hands to someone hopefully is a collector vs an investor.
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I saw that!
WTF - that card looks like it had a few too many days out in the sun - how is that a 7!?
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ugliest wagner i've ever seen. if that's a 2 million card I'll eat a t206!
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The card looks 1000 times better now than before. If I had the money I'd go for it.
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Hey, I had to draw that guy from memory!
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Perhaps others are reading our forum (or not)
But after the first day the bidding is only at $389k. I thought it would have been a bit higher after one day with more bidders getting in their bids early.
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I personally wouldn't want any part of that card, even if I did have the money.
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The buyer of Heritage's Joe Jackson autographed photo did pretty well with his investment despite the fact that almost everyone thinks the autograph is a forgery. The hobby has trended towards what the flip says is more important that what is inside. Buyers who are investors not collectors are only looking at the financials. They don't care about Net54 or what the hobby thinks of their purchases.
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+1 to what Corey said so very well.
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I like the restored version.
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Maybe if they read the archived threads or have a time machine. Because currently it only seems to be a bunch of whiners complaining about graded cards or other things they act like experts on but now less than some of these “novices”
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I am assuming the buyers are looking at this as a piece of art then a baseball card collector. A display piece and they would rather look pretty.
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You guys need to consider all sides, not just the buyer looking to get steals. If you owned a card that just sold for 2.5 million dollars, you wouldn't sell yours for 1 million. You would want a reserve to protect your investment.
From the AH side, they aren't going to want a bunch of cards with high reserves that don't sell. They make their money on BP. They need cards to sell. They are only going to accept reserves for high profile cards and they are going to want most to be reasonable. A Wagner is going to get eyes on their other cards, so why wouldn't they do what it takes to get a copy of the Hobby's best card in their auction? |
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Agreed, no way that is a 7 in my mind.
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That is one of the worst looking Goudey Ruth 144s I have seen. And after juice it's already over 30k? Maybe it's a registry thing because I wouldn't pay 5k for it unless it was to flip. I couldn't own it and look at it everyday. My last one wasn't quite up to snuff so I upgraded and it looked tons better than this 7, it was a 4. That is one ugly card to me. From their write up-
" GEM MINT reverse and pin point sharp corners give this example a 9/10 in the eye appeal department in our view." Whomever "our" is certainly isn't a collector. Because of the sharp corners and great looking back I would give it a 2, at best. As for the Wagner. Ugh..... what the heck? I agree they should return the make up they put on him. I honestly think I liked it better unrestored. It looks fake now., .
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I am convinced that other than true, diehard collectors, people are buying the holder and not the card. I absolutely believe that if PSA were ever to do an April Fool's joke and issue an empty holder with a flip that says, "T206 Honus Wagner Invisible Gem-Mt 10," there would be a bidding frenzy on it.
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Good excuse for me to show off my #144 SGC 2 once again. I challenge the 7, stamp and all!
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I can't agree more Chad, I'd take your 2 over that "7" anyday, BTW, nice card!
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As long as it's clearly labeled as restored, I don't have a problem in the world with it. However, I admit I collect "Authentic" cards with no qualms.
Actually interested in the final hammer on this as it will be telling on the overall temperature of collectors on the owners choice to have it worked on.
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because it's been soaked in bleach, peroxide and trimmed. Color looks like s***. A nice Authentic (Restored), IMHO
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