1/1 -- 1/25 Pre-War Items

[molenick]

Some amazing cards posted so far. This is not one of them, but it does echo Leon's point that this is a good thread for type collectors.

[Rhotchkiss]

Another Wagner Orange borders (also ending in memory lane tmrw night)

The Joe Jacksons in this thread are off the hook

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Another Wagner Orange borders (also ending in memory lane tmrw night)

The Joe Jacksons in this thread are off the hook

Sounds good that the Jacksons are off the hook


Love the Orange Border Wagner

We will put that down as another Shameless (but Strategic Plug)

[sb1]

Originally Posted by WillowGrove

Great thread!

Kid Nichols portrait cabinet taken by Chickering ca. 1897. Anyone ever see another?

Found the image, NOT Nichols as my mind had mistakenly recalled, but Bobby Lowe the year 1897 is in the written inscription on the negative on the photo and the team B is placed different, so the Nichols might be a year earlier or later???

The Nichols I was thinking of turned out to be a Omaha's N173...

[ValKehl]

Here's another "Authentic" 1-of-1 Green-Joyce. Jeff, care to do an even-up trade?

[chadeast]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

This 1916 D352 Morehouse Baking of WaJo is a 1 of 1 per the pop reports (no graded examples).

Ethan, please don't take this as a criticism of your post, but all or almost all of the individual cards in very many (if not most) of the pre-War sets have less than 25 examples known to exist. My pre-War favorites are the real-photo, black & white card sets from 1916, 1917 and 1920-22 with a plethora of advertising backs; there are less than 25 examples known of every card in most of these sets. IMHO, for a pre-War card to be considered truly rare there should be less than 5 examples known to exist.

Well said, Val. And great WaJo! Can we see the Weil Baking too?

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by chadeast

Well said, Val. And great WaJo! Can we see the Weil Baking too?

Thanks, Chad for your kind words. Per your request, here's my 1916 Weil Baking. I'm still looking for a 1917 Weil Baking - can anyone help?

[LincolnVT]

Yeah, I totally agree. This was the case years back when I put together the E103 Williams Caramel set. I love seeing the 1/1 stuff the most, but in an effort to see more cards I decide to broaden the thread to include 1/1 -- 1/25...great looking stuff so far.

Originally Posted by ValKehl

This 1916 D352 Morehouse Baking of WaJo is a 1 of 1 per the pop reports (no graded examples).

Ethan, please don't take this as a criticism of your post, but all or almost all of the individual cards in very many (if not most) of the pre-War sets have less than 25 examples known to exist. My pre-War favorites are the real-photo, black & white card sets from 1916, 1917 and 1920-22 with a plethora of advertising backs; there are less than 25 examples known of every card in most of these sets. IMHO, for a pre-War card to be considered truly rare there should be less than 5 examples known to exist.

[Cooper1927]

I get the E103, I am still working on my last two for the set…


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[puckpaul]

Love the Dukes…beautiful cards.

[Leon]

I like Val's idea of 5 or less known.... It would weed the posts down some.

[WillowGrove]

Originally Posted by sb1

Found the image, NOT Nichols as my mind had mistakenly recalled, but Bobby Lowe the year 1897 is in the written inscription on the negative on the photo and the team B is placed different, so the Nichols might be a year earlier or later???

The Nichols I was thinking of turned out to be a Omaha's N173...

Would've been interesting to see a 2nd one. Thanks a lot for checking Scott.

[sb1]

I do imagine duplicates existed at one time. Whether any others survived is the unknown. Both Chickering and Horner used the images they took to provide to teams and family members, as well as for use in publications. They also offered them in their studios for sale to the public. So.... the chances that multiples once existed are pretty good. I once thought that most Horner cabinets were one of one's, now I have seen dupes of many of the players, even the more pedestrian players.

[pherbener]

Great stuff everyone! I love the Ullman Postcards. Here's my Matty. Would love to get one of his brother!

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by pherbener

Great stuff everyone! I love the Ullman Postcards. Here's my Matty. Would love to get one of his brother!

Great card Paul, when you win the Legends league we will figure out a trade for Henry!

[familytoad]

I always thought this was a Honey of a Card.
No idea how many are out there, so disregard if there are 26+

[ValKehl]

I believe that each of the cards from this set that is known to exist is a 1 of 1:

[ullmandds]

This is a scarce cobby.

[BabyRuth]

Blank Back Ruth and a mini blanket

[pherbener]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

Great card Paul, when you win the Legends league we will figure out a trade for Henry!

It may be a while but sounds good JC!

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

I believe that each of the cards from this set that is known to exist is a 1 of 1:

Nice cards Val

[ullmandds]

There are a bunch of low pops I wish I still had...still have a few...like these t216/d303 mystery blank backs.

[phlflyer1]

These are both 1/1 unless there are other examples that I am unaware of which have turned up since I reported the existence of these to SCD back in the mid 90s.

[LOUCARDFAN]

Babe Ruth Pathe Freres. Only 15 have been graded between the two, not including my copy.

1909 Max Stein Ty Cobb. Only 6 graded between the two.

1910 PC796 Cobb/Wagner. Only 14 graded between the two.

Joe McGinnity’s 1911 Chicago Cubs Season Pass - the one and only. Going to be in REA’s fall catalog auction.








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[dstudeba]

Originally Posted by Leon

Type card collectors have an unfair advantage in this thread. I paid less the second time I bought this one LOL

Nice Leon, I imagine that was a private sale because I didn't see it come up and would have really liked a swing at it.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by LOUCARDFAN

Joe McGinnity’s 1911 Chicago Cubs Season Pass - the one and only. Going to be in REA’s fall catalog auction.

Nice items, and cool 1911 season pass...I especially like the "Captain Chance's Celebrated Chicago Champion Cubs" motto on it, and how the 'C' acts as a bracket for the alliteration.

Brian

[Leon]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

Nice Leon, I imagine that was a private sale because I didn't see it come up and would have really liked a swing at it.

Yes, it was a private sale. The person that I got it from I also got these from. They probably fit the thread. I was happy to get them back, albeit at 2x mark up....that's life. It wasn't like I was going to find them somewhere else.

[Casey2296]

I never get tired of seeing the Bishop team cards. Thanks for posting Leon.

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

Nice Leon, I imagine that was a private sale because I didn't see it come up and would have really liked a swing at it.

+1. It seems like only yesterday when Leon sold this A.W.A. card: https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515

Dan, I now have 9 of the 12 E222s, but I doubt I'll ever complete this set. Hope all is going well for you.

It's interesting how these E222s were issued in different colors and with different back designs:

[dstudeba]

Originally Posted by Leon

Yes, it was a private sale. The person that I got it from I also got these from. They probably fit the thread. I was happy to get them back, albeit at 2x mark up....that's life. It wasn't like I was going to find them somewhere else.

Salt in the wound.

When you and Val are finished maybe there will be a find. 50/50 on if that will be before or after pigs fly.

Congrats to both you and Val on your acquisitions. I have been stuck at 6 E222s and 2 E221s for a while.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

+1. It seems like only yesterday when Leon sold this A.W.A. card: https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515

Dan, I now have 9 of the 12 E222s, but I doubt I'll ever complete this set. Hope all is going well for you.

It's interesting how these E222s were issued in different colors and with different back designs:

very nice cards.

Like the looks of these.

[LincolnVT]

Here is a 1/1 I believe. A 1908 12 by 14 cabinet photo taken of the Greenville Spinners team the year that Joe Jackson went shoeless. Nice silvering in the right light.

[h2oya311]

very cool Ethan. Too bad he's wearing his shoes in that pic

I've got lots of postcards and cabinets that would fit this thread nicely. But "standard" sized cards is something different. Here's one pre-war where there are likely less than 10 known:



and a pretty damn rare post-war card just to stir up some trouble:



And I saw someone else in this thread post a T5 of Joe McCarthy. Ironically, I have one as well...what are the chances?



Lastly, here's one that you don't see too often, if ever:

[Bpm0014]

I’m sure all off these are 1 of 1’s. A bunch of t206 player game used bats. Many obscure ones.

[chiprop]

Scarce

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by chiprop

Scarce

Nice Gehrig!!

Some of my favorite rarities:

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by LincolnVT

Here is a 1/1 I believe. A 1908 12 by 14 cabinet photo taken of the Greenville Spinners team the day that Joe Jackson went shoeless. Nice silvering in the right light.

Congrats on a great special Cabinet Ethan. Here is a year earlier when Jackson was playing for the Vic Mills team

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

Congrats on a great special Cabinet Ethan. Here is a year earlier when Jackson was playing for the Vic Mills team

Vic Mills Team very very nice.

I believe that has my name on it.....

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by LincolnVT

Here is a 1/1 I believe. A 1908 12 by 14 cabinet photo taken of the Greenville Spinners team the day that Joe Jackson went shoeless. Nice silvering in the right light.

Great Pick up Ethan

Sure is a beauty.

Congrats

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by yanksfan09

Nice Gehrig!!

Some of my favorite rarities:

And the Hits Keep Coming

Wow a lot of Great And Rare Cards Erick

Ruth's, Cobb's, and Wagner's and so much more

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

And the Hits Keep Coming

Wow a lot of Great And Rare Cards Erick

Ruth's, Cobb's, and Wagner's and so much more

Thanks Jeff!

And yea that Joe Jackson cabinet is spectacular!

[Casey2296]

Some less than 5 examples.
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[jcmtiger]

Originally Posted by yanksfan09

Nice Gehrig!!

Some of my favorite rarities:

I had both of those Cobb Wolverine News PC, sold. Few years ago. Does the betting pose have mailing info on it. ? Thanks joe

[LincolnVT]

Love your eye, your style and your stuff JC!

Originally Posted by BeanTown

Congrats on a great special Cabinet Ethan. Here is a year earlier when Jackson was playing for the Vic Mills team

[Leon]

There is probably 1 of these...

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by jcmtiger

I had both of those Cobb Wolverine News PC, sold. Few years ago. Does the betting pose have mailing info on it. ? Thanks joe

Yea,
This is back

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by yanksfan09

Yea,
This is back

Wow Very Sharp Card

and very cool that the card is still in the Net54Forum family

[CobbSpikedMe]

I don't have any big name low pop cards, but here are some of mine.

Pop 1 of a T215 Red Cross Purtell, Jersey City and these other odd "cards" that I haven't seen many of over the years.



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[Leon]

Buttonhead is 1 of 1.

[mrreality68]

Leon

Very nice Card.

You always come up with interesting and unique Everything to share with the forum.

Love it

Keep Them Coming