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Old 10-07-2021, 07:31 PM
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Looks like a cheaper than expected price on the signed Gehrig rookie.
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Old 10-07-2021, 08:12 PM
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I'm not an expert, but the Jackson signature also struck me as a little odd. IMO, his other examples, known to be authentic (on legal documents/checks, etc) have much shaker, and less fluid signatures.

Close friend of mine won the W514 Jackson. Killer card. He was bidding in the room.

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Old 10-07-2021, 08:35 PM
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What a shame that someone paid that much for an apparently inauthentic signature.
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Old 10-07-2021, 08:58 PM
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I am not an autograph specialist, but if you blow it up, Jackson's signature is really shaky. The provenance is also pretty good for something like this - Cleveland photographer and all these other signed pics too.
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Old 10-07-2021, 11:34 PM
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Looks like a cheaper than expected price on the signed Gehrig rookie.
Jay - that’s because it is not a 1925 rookie card & major hobbyists know that. It’s a 1926 second year BLUE TINT Gehrig exhibit inadvertently slabbed as a 1925 gray tint rookie. Virtually every high-end collector I know that would have bid strong backed off knowing it’s a true 1926 exhibit.

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Jay - that’s because it is not a 1925 rookie card & major hobbyists know that. It’s a 1926 second year BLUE TINT Gehrig exhibit inadvertently slabbed as a 1925 gray tint rookie. Virtually every high-end collector I know that would have bid strong backed off knowing it’s a true 1926 exhibit.
My god. Unreal. Reminds me of that annoying quote "life is like a box of chocolates. . .you never know what you are going to get." That's Christies. I've bought things from them that were not as advertised for the better and for the worse. You never know. They aren't sports specialists. By a long shot.

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Old 10-08-2021, 06:10 AM
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My god. Unreal. Reminds me of that annoying quote "life is like a box of chocolates. . .you never know what you are going to get." That's Christies. I've bought things from them that were not as advertised for the better and for the worse. You never know. They aren't sports specialists. By a long shot.
This is more a problem with PSA, the grader, than it is with Christie's but both could have done better in this case.
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I think it's a good 1925 Exhibits. I'm not seeing a "blue tint". Plus, the 1926 Exhibits, from what I've seen, have the same player information in the same location on the card, but does not have a box for the info. See pic.

I would assume what hurt the Christie's Gehrig, was that the card itself was not graded. The PSA 6(mk) just cleared $1mil not that long ago.
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Incorrect. The 1926 exhibits DO HAVE the same text box as the 1925’s. They are exactly the same except for the gray vs. blue tint. Unfortunately, the example you used was likewise graded incorrectly - it’s not a 1926 blue tint exhibit.
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Old 10-08-2021, 07:02 AM
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Here’s the Christie’s 1926 image (on the right) vs. a good 1925 gehrig rookie on the left. Night & day. You can clearly see the gray vs. blue tint. Note, the Scan of the Christie’s Gehrig was taken before it was re-holdered & graded a 9. It is the same card.
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Default "1926" Gehrig NOT 1925

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Incorrect. The 1926 exhibits DO HAVE the same text box as the 1925’s. They are exactly the same except for the gray vs. blue tint. Unfortunately, the example you used was likewise graded incorrectly - it’s not a 1926 blue tint exhibit.
Absolutely Joe! 100% from 1926 NOT 1925. I saw it up close at the National, and also compared next to a 1925, and the blue tint is easily recognizable and undeniable. There were discussions of it being a 1926 at the National, as there were in the past regarding this card, which had previously identified it as a 1926. Not sure how it's still in a 1925 holder.
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Incorrect. The 1926 exhibits DO HAVE the same text box as the 1925’s. They are exactly the same except for the gray vs. blue tint. Unfortunately, the example you used was likewise graded incorrectly - it’s not a 1926 blue tint exhibit.
Are there any examples, with the text box, graded by SGC or PSA, as 1926. Or do they just recognize all with the text box, regardless of color tint, as issued in 1925.
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My god. Unreal. Reminds me of that annoying quote "life is like a box of chocolates. . .you never know what you are going to get." That's Christies. I've bought things from them that were not as advertised for the better and for the worse. You never know. They aren't sports specialists. By a long shot.
Like selling the "1919 Game 4 Ticket" that was really from Game 8!!?? Sloppy.

PSA F'd that up too. Sloppy and Greedy.

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