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Randy won 4 CY in a row and struck out almost 5,000 batters. Pedro has 3,000 K's, which is akin to 3,000 hits. Kershaw has no milestone.
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Pedro's great run is remarkably close to Kershaw's if you compare. And both won 3 Cys with 2 seconds during their runs.
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Not like Pedro was a dominant force in the Playoffs either.
One Red Sox manager once got fired for leaving Pedro in a game for too long. Which kind of boggled my mind at the time, considering Pedro was supposed to be the best pitcher on the planet. Both have an excellent lifetime WHIP in the Playoffs, suggesting they tended to be the victim of some bad luck on batted balls, and neither were the horse to close out games that they started. At least not by the time that time of the year rolled around. |
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The 2003 playoff game was terrible managing, Pedro had nothing left and everyone knew it except Pedro and Grady Little. Pedro intimidated him into leaving him in. Francona would have ignored him.
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It's not that I think Kershaw wasn't as good as he was, I just don't put him in the same conversation as the elite guys. He didn't pitch enough to be one.
I don't say this to take anything away from Kershaw but I see him in the same class as Johan Santana, who I think was well on his way to being a HOFer too. But he pitched even less than Kershaw did. Although in that time Santana did win 2 CY and also won a Triple Crown. Kershaw was clearly better but the accolades aren't too far away from each other. |
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Pretty high talent wise but not as high career wise. I wouldn’t say he was an elite HOFer either. Elite talent for sure.
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He had given up three straight hits, no?
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I remember yelling at my TV when he even came out for that inning. If I recall correctly, he gave up some VERY loud outs the inning before.
What a Hall of Fame starting pitcher is will evolve with the game. I actually think Santana will get in some day via one of the era committees, when people figure out that another 300 game winner is going to be a long wait. |
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Absolutely. No need to build a case here Pete. I feel they should have turned it over to the bullpen. That being said, doesn’t change the fact that a broken bat flare tied the game.
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