1989 Fleer Randy Johnson #381 Marlboro Errors - 30 Years Later

[jacksoncoupage]

Updated the JunkWaxGems entry for this nightmare fun card.

https://junkwaxgems.wordpress.com/20...ro-variations/

steve5838 - I've used your stencil close-up pic, I will remove or credit if you would like.

[Hatorade]

Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage

Updated the JunkWaxGems entry for this nightmare fun card.

https://junkwaxgems.wordpress.com/20...ro-variations/

steve5838 - I've used your stencil close-up pic, I will remove or credit if you would like.

Thank you for making this public again. I can say with 100% certainty that your site helped lead me into collecting these cards and established the foundation for what I know about the variations.

The actual way Fleer manufactured the cards is basically a combination of what you have mentioned and the way Steve has his chart setup. I was messaging with Steve some today and mentioned this to him as well. Trying to figure out what Fleer did to make these variations has been one of my main goals after starting to collect the cards and is also one of my favorite aspects about these cards and is what makes them so fun and unique to collect. I don't want to ruin this aspect for others, but its probably best after all these years to have the mystery solved.

Before I get further into the details of the true manner in which Fleer created the errors, I wanted to take a step back and describe some of the basics of the cards and what my experience was like building a collection of them. It might take me a couple days to get a post together and it might be kind of lengthy, but it should be informative.

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by Hatorade

Thank you for making this public again. I can say with 100% certainty that your site helped lead me into collecting these cards and established the foundation for what I know about the variations.

The actual way Fleer manufactured the cards is basically a combination of what you have mentioned and the way Steve has his chart setup. I was messaging with Steve some today and mentioned this to him as well. Trying to figure out what Fleer did to make these variations has been one of my main goals after starting to collect the cards and is also one of my favorite aspects about these cards and is what makes them so fun and unique to collect. I don't want to ruin this aspect for others, but its probably best after all these years to have the mystery solved.

Before I get further into the details of the true manner in which Fleer created the errors, I wanted to take a step back and describe some of the basics of the cards and what my experience was like building a collection of them. It might take me a couple days to get a post together and it might be kind of lengthy, but it should be informative.

I will say this: if I hadn't lost the password to the block, it would've been public again a while back. It is still my goal to make the blog entry the most accessible summary of the card. I will leave it up to those who discover it or start collecting it to find forum discussions like this if they'd like to dive further into them beyond my "easy-to-understand" thirteen types.

The images included, from 2009 or so are no longer in my possession. I have long sold all of them and rebuilt the collection (twice now...) but what I would give for a few of them back! I'd love to include more close up pics of some of the more unusual or rare types if anyone wishes to submit them.

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by Hatorade

Thank you for making this public again. I can say with 100% certainty that your site helped lead me into collecting these cards and established the foundation for what I know about the variations.

The actual way Fleer manufactured the cards is basically a combination of what you have mentioned and the way Steve has his chart setup. I was messaging with Steve some today and mentioned this to him as well. Trying to figure out what Fleer did to make these variations has been one of my main goals after starting to collect the cards and is also one of my favorite aspects about these cards and is what makes them so fun and unique to collect. I don't want to ruin this aspect for others, but its probably best after all these years to have the mystery solved.

Before I get further into the details of the true manner in which Fleer created the errors, I wanted to take a step back and describe some of the basics of the cards and what my experience was like building a collection of them. It might take me a couple days to get a post together and it might be kind of lengthy, but it should be informative.

I personally can't wait. Thank you!

[Hatorade]

Here is a scan and photo of the blue box I have next to a "negative" version.

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage

Updated the JunkWaxGems entry for this nightmare fun card.

https://junkwaxgems.wordpress.com/20...ro-variations/

steve5838 - I've used your stencil close-up pic, I will remove or credit if you would like.

Yay! Thanks for making this incredible resource available again. You've made my day! No need to credit anything. Just happy to have a copy of the version in my collection now.

Steve

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by steve5838

Yay! Thanks for making this incredible resource available again. You've made my day! No need to credit anything. Just happy to have a copy of the version in my collection now.

Steve

Incredible, you say? Thank you.

I mentioned above that if you or anyone else wants to contribute similar focused pics of some of the rarer or less-frequently seen versions, I'd love to add them to the blog. Perhaps just a few more of the truly unusual.

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage

Incredible, you say? Thank you.

I mentioned above that if you or anyone else wants to contribute similar focused pics of some of the rarer or less-frequently seen versions, I'd love to add them to the blog. Perhaps just a few more of the truly unusual.

Sure. Here is a close up of the sign on the blue/aqua tint one. Feel free to crop however you need to. If you need a higher resolution image just let me know how to get it to you.

Steve

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by steve5838

Sure. Here is a close up of the sign on the blue/aqua tint one. Feel free to crop however you need to. If you need a higher resolution image just let me know how to get it to you.

Steve

Thank you, this is really great. I don't have a scanner currently but I would like to add similar pics for the green scribble cards. I have one posted on the blog, would you be able to post the other? Or likely, "others" if you have them? I find them and their differing shapes of blackout to be among the more interesting of the correction types.

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage

Thank you, this is really great. I don't have a scanner currently but I would like to add similar pics for the green scribble cards. I have one posted on the blog, would you be able to post the other? Or likely, "others" if you have them? I find them and their differing shapes of blackout to be among the more interesting of the correction types.

I'm sorry but I can help on the green scribble cards. I believe others (Hatorade, Kevin, Ben,...) have much more comprehensive collections than I do. My collection has focused on those versions that would likely be labeled as "Ad on Scoreboard" by PSA. Even though I have multiple copies of these versions with relatively clear lettering, I don't have a "complete" collection with all the box and scribble versions. This is part of the reason the diagram I put together is only built out so far.

[jacksoncoupage]

OK, the RJ Marlboro blog has been updated to reflect current info, remove the outdated info and added several new hi res, close-up pics of some of the more interesting variations.

https://junkwaxgems.wordpress.com/20...ro-variations/