1921-22 . E220 National Caramel

[BuzzD]

I have Shawkey.I guess it is trimmed but not sure (and not sure why!)

[brianp-beme]

Below is some info on the three E220 back variations that I have sporadically gathered over the years, along with the help of other Net54 members, and scans to help identify those three backs.


Left cards of scans - Type 1 backs ('B' of "Ball" in 2nd line under 'P' of "Pictures', and printing top right down):

All 120 cards have been verified for Type 1.


Center cards of scans - Type 2 backs ('B' of "Ball" in 2nd line under 'I' of "Pictures', and printing top right down - 46 currently verified):

G.C. Alexander
Turner Barber
George Burns (Cincinnati)
Joe Bush
Wilbur Cooper
Wm. Cunningham
George Cutshaw
Jimmy Dykes (batting)
"Red" Faber
Chick Fewster
Wilson Fewster
Walter Gerber
Hank Gowdy
Charles Grimm
Sam Harris
Harry Heilman
Chas. Hollocher
Wilbert Hubbell
Walter Johnson
Jimmy Johnston
Dick Kerr
Pete Kilduff (bending)
Pete Kilduff (leaping)
Larry Kopf
Walter "Buster" Mails
Walter "Rabbit" Maranville
Bob Meusel
Ivan Olson
Steve O'Neill
Geo. Paskert
Roger Peckinpaugh
V.J. Picinich
Wally Pipp
Jimmy Ring
Raymond Schmandt
Everett Scott
Maurice Shannon
Bob Shawkey
Urban Shocker
John Smith
Frank Snyder (crouching)
Frank Snyder (standing)
James Vaughan
Robert Veach
George Whitted (batting)
Arthur Wilson


Right cards of scans - Type 3 backs ('B' of "Ball" in 2nd line under 'I' of "Pictures', and printing bottom left up...these are basically reversed Type 2 backs - 93 currently verified):

Babe Adams
James Austin
Franklin "Home Run" Baker
Dave Bancroft
Turner Barber
George Burns (Cincinnati)
George Burns (Cleveland)
Joe Bush
Leon Cadore
Max Carey
Eddie Collins
John Collins
S. Covaleskie
Walton Cruise
Wm. Cunningham
George Cutshaw
Jake Daubert
Chas. A Deal
Bill Doak
Joe Dugan
Jimmy Dykes (fielding)
Chick Fewster
Ira Flagstead
Arthur Fletcher
Frank Frisch
Larry Gardner
Walter Gerber
Charles Glazner
J.C. Graney
Tommy Griffith
Heinie Groh
Byron Harris
Sam Harris
Harry Heilman
Claude Hendrix
Walter Henline
Chas. Hollocher
Harry Hooper
Rogers Hornsby
Waite Hoyt
Wilbert Hubbell
William Jacobsen
Walter Johnson
Joe Judge
Geo. "Bingo" Kelly
Larry Kopf
Harry Leibold
H.B. Leonard
Walter "Buster" Mails
Carl Mays
Lee Meadows
Emil Meusel
J.C. Milan
Earl Neale
Robert Nehf
Bernie Neis
Joe Oeschger
Robert O'Farrell
Ivan Olson
George Paskert
Ralph "Cy" Perkins
Scott Perry
Jeff Pfeffer
Wally Pipp
Derrill Pratt
Goldie Rapp
Edgar Rice
Eddie Rousch
Babe Ruth
Raymond Schmandt
Everett Scott
Joe Sewell
Maurice Shannon
Urban Shocker
George Sisler
Earl Smith
John Smith
Sherrod Smith
Frank Snyder (crouching)
Frank Snyder (standing)
Vernon Spencer
Chas. "Casey" Stengle
Milton Stock (batting)
Milton Stock (fielding)
Wm. Wambsgauss
Aaron Ward
Zach Wheat
George Whitted (fielding)
Fred C. Williams
Arthur Wilson
Lawton Witt
"Pep" Young
Ross Young


Subjects that have been seen with all three back types, which are any that are noted in both lists above...but to make it easier (25 total):

Turner Barber
George Burns (Cincinnati)
Joe Bush
Wm. Cunningham
George Cutshaw
Chick Fewster
Walter Gerber
Sam Harris
Harry Heilman
Chas. Hollocher
Wilbert Hubbell
Walter Johnson
Larry Kopf
Walter "Buster" Mails
Ivan Olson
George Paskert
Wally Pipp
Raymond Schmandt
Everett Scott
Maurice Shannon
Urban Shocker
John Smith
Frank Snyder (crouching)
Frank Snyder (standing)
Arthur Wilson

Brian

[brianp-beme]

Here are some fun size variations and odd cuts that the E220 cards are known for.

Brian

[mrreality68]

some nice looking cards.
looks like I have to start looking for that e220 Ruth

[GasHouseGang]

I was always getting the E220's mixed up with the E121's. I found an old thread on Net54 where several people had even gotten cards graded by PSA that had mistaken one for the other. Here's the thread:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=148662

The quickest and easiest way to tell by looking at the front of the card is that the E220's have the player name inside the frame of the picture and the E121's have the name outside of the frame.

[Jobu]

Great info Brian!!

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

I was always getting the E220's mixed up with the E121's. I found an old thread on Net54 where several people had even gotten cards graded by PSA that had mistaken one for the other. Here's the thread:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=148662

The quickest and easiest way to tell by looking at the front of the card is that the E220's have the player name inside the frame of the picture and the E121's have the name outside of the frame.

David, what you said is true with respect to differentiating E220s from E121s. However, the E122 Am. Caramel cards also have the player's name "inside the frame of the picture," just like the E220s.

[GasHouseGang]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

David, what you said is true with respect to differentiating E220s from E121s. However, the E122 Am. Caramel cards also have the player's name "inside the frame of the picture," just like the E220s.

Well darn, I guess I'll have to flip them over and see if it says "American" or "National" Caramel.