Philly Show This weekend anybody going??

[rugbymarine]

My dad and I had a great time at the Philly show last night. Here are my thoughts/observations:

1) TONS of post-war vintage material. I walked every table, and I would guess at least half the tables had significant quantities of vintage. There was something for everyone.

2) Lots of high-end graded vintage for sale.
- 1959 Gibson RC SGC 9.5
- 1952 Topps Jackie SGC 8
- Mantle, Aaron, Mays, Clemente, Williams

3) Plenty of low to mid graded vintage as well. Plenty of nice cards <$500.

4) Hordes of raw vintages to flip through. I'd guess about 20 tables had chairs in front of them all night. Collectors with lists, sorting for hours. Really cool to see.

5) I don't collect as much pre-war as most on here, but it was awesome to see that as well. I was blown away by how many tables had tobacco cards, caramel cards, Goudeys, etc

6) Got to meet some of great people on net54.
- Howard Chasser (hcv123), A Few of my Favorite Things had a great display filled with quality vintage material. Make sure you stop by.

- I spent some time talking with Bill Brodhead (bbsports) about t206. His display is unreal. Truly the king of the t206.

- Stopped by Ted Z and Dan's booth, and found some common ground since both of them, as well as my dad, served in the military. Both great guys willing to share stories about the hobby.

- Also talked to Larry Dean for a while. Great selection. Fair prices. And the conversation and stories were worth stopping by.

7) Prices are high. I built lists of the cards that I was looking for in various grades, as well as my top buy price for each grade. When I do this, I compare recent sales, and I do take into account any differences in sales tax and shipping costs. Like the general market shows, I believe there should be a premium on cards with strong eye appeal and good centering. I saw exactly 1 card that was priced at my price level (and I bought it!). Everything was 20-50% high. There was a specific raw 52 Topps HOF that I was looking for in VG-EX range. Several BIN on eBay around $100 from reputable, high-quality feedback sellers. There were plenty of examples at the show, and the only card listed below $200 was an absolute beater with a missing corner (sticker $115). I know there is always room for negotiation, and I made offers on dozens cards. There were cards were the ask was double, so I didn't bother insulting the seller. I was always polite and sellers were as well, so no hard feelings. But don't go expecting bargains.

All in all, an amazing experience. I talked to many people that drove 3+ hours to be there and said it was worth it. If you're free, take the time to go.

[Rhotchkiss]

Drove up this morning. Will spend 2-3 hours. Waiting in line to go in. I doubt I buy anything, and I missing the Badger-Irish game for this (I will listen on radio driving home), but I missed the National and it’s been a long time since I went to a real card show, so…..

[Donscards]

Originally Posted by rugbymarine

My dad and I had a great time at the Philly show last night. Here are my thoughts/observations:

1) TONS of post-war vintage material. I walked every table, and I would guess at least half the tables had significant quantities of vintage. There was something for everyone.

2) Lots of high-end graded vintage for sale.
- 1959 Gibson RC SGC 9.5
- 1952 Topps Jackie SGC 8
- Mantle, Aaron, Mays, Clemente, Williams

3) Plenty of low to mid graded vintage as well. Plenty of nice cards <$500.

4) Hordes of raw vintages to flip through. I'd guess about 20 tables had chairs in front of them all night. Collectors with lists, sorting for hours. Really cool to see.

5) I don't collect as much pre-war as most on here, but it was awesome to see that as well. I was blown away by how many tables had tobacco cards, caramel cards, Goudeys, etc

6) Got to meet some of great people on net54.
- Howard Chasser (hcv123), A Few of my Favorite Things had a great display filled with quality vintage material. Make sure you stop by.

- I spent some time talking with Bill Brodhead (bbsports) about t206. His display is unreal. Truly the king of the t206.

- Stopped by Ted Z and Dan's booth, and found some common ground since both of them, as well as my dad, served in the military. Both great guys willing to share stories about the hobby.

- Also talked to Larry Dean for a while. Great selection. Fair prices. And the conversation and stories were worth stopping by.

7) Prices are high. I built lists of the cards that I was looking for in various grades, as well as my top buy price for each grade. When I do this, I compare recent sales, and I do take into account any differences in sales tax and shipping costs. Like the general market shows, I believe there should be a premium on cards with strong eye appeal and good centering. I saw exactly 1 card that was priced at my price level (and I bought it!). Everything was 20-50% high. There was a specific raw 52 Topps HOF that I was looking for in VG-EX range. Several BIN on eBay around $100 from reputable, high-quality feedback sellers. There were plenty of examples at the show, and the only card listed below $200 was an absolute beater with a missing corner (sticker $115). I know there is always room for negotiation, and I made offers on dozens cards. There were cards were the ask was double, so I didn't bother insulting the seller. I was always polite and sellers were as well, so no hard feelings. But don't go expecting bargains.

All in all, an amazing experience. I talked to many people that drove 3+ hours to be there and said it was worth it. If you're free, take the time to go.

Very Nice report---you hit all the bases--thanks for update.

[Johnny630]

The last Philly show in June I seen a lot of new dealers with 100% modern shinny basketball, football, and baseball.

Yesterday I seen those same dealers with now 25% of there inventory as post war vintage. That’s good for our market ! They need a cushion run home to safety portion of their inventory, that will always been quality vintage :-).

[mrreality68]

Making me very anxious to go to a live show. The Eastern held on Long Island was cancelled last month due to a hurricane that wound up being nothing (luckily) near us.
Looking forward to Nationals next year in A.C.

Thanks for those providing updates and insight

[Seven]

Love hearing the reports from the September Philly Show! Also interesting to see the shift in inventory, as I went to the one in June and I definitely did see a great deal of shiny newer stuff as opposed to Post-War vintage.

Originally Posted by mrreality68

Making me very anxious to go to a live show. The Eastern held on Long Island was cancelled last month due to a hurricane that wound up being nothing (luckily) near us.
Looking forward to Nationals next year in A.C.

Thanks for those providing updates and insight

There's a 400 Table show at Hofstra on the 16th and the 17th of October, I believe this is the one that was scheduled because of the last one being interrupted by the hurricane.

[Frankish]

Originally Posted by rugbymarine

My dad and I had a great time at the Philly show last night. Here are my thoughts/observations:

1) TONS of post-war vintage material. I walked every table, and I would guess at least half the tables had significant quantities of vintage. There was something for everyone....

Thanks for the report, and I'm glad you and. your dad enjoyed it. That's great to hear (except for the prices!).

Totally random question, but did you see anyone with much in the way of old Type 1 photos or any vintage Japanese baseball cards? Those are two things I've been into lately and don't see around too much.

[Schlesinj]

Originally Posted by Frankish

Thanks for the report, and I'm glad you and. your dad enjoyed it. That's great to hear (except for the prices!).

Totally random question, but did you see anyone with much in the way of old Type 1 photos or any vintage Japanese baseball cards? Those are two things I've been into lately and don't see around too much.

I attended today and specifically was looking for photos and not much available. Did not see any Japanese either, but was not specifically looking.

The auction houses did have their previews (photos) and they had a few to look at.

I also met Ryan H after overhearing him say his name to a dealer. *Hopefully that was not too creepy.

Also, spent some time with Scott and got an up close look at that PSA “1.5” 52 Mantle and the Rose Co Post cards really nice.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Schlesinj

I attended today and specifically was looking for photos and not much available. Did not see any Japanese either, but was not specifically looking.

The auction houses did have their previews (photos) and they had a few to look at.

I also met Ryan H after overhearing him say his name to a dealer. *Hopefully that was not too creepy.

Also, spent some time with Scott and got an up close look at that PSA “1.5” 52 Mantle and the Rose Co Post cards really nice.

Hi.

Thanks for update
Just curious what auction house was showing Rose Co. postcards?

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

Hi.

Thanks for update
Just curious what auction house was showing Rose Co. postcards?

Collector Connection.

https://thecollectorconnection.com

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Collector Connection.

https://thecollectorconnection.com

Thanks appreciated.

[tedzan]

Dan and I have really enjoyed all the Net54 guys who stopped by to visit with us to have some great conversations.

It has been a great Show. Drop by and see us at Booth #412.

Looking forward to meeting some more of you Net54er's on Sunday.


Ted Z and Dan McKee
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[Eric72]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Dan and I have really enjoyed all the Net54 guys who stopped by to visit with us to have some great conversations.

It has been a great Show. Drop by and see us at Booth #412.

Looking forward to meeting some more of you Ner54er's on Sunday.


Ted Z and Dan McKee
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Ted,

It was an absolute pleasure to chat with you today. Thanks for taking some time to speak with me. I greatly appreciate your willingness to share knowledge about the game and the hobby.

Best regards,

Eric

[walker066]

Went to the Philly show today. It’a less than an hour so I usually attend all the shows. Felt like more pre-war and vintage than last time, which is great thing for me! Prices are still strong, some dealers are always better than others. Saw a 33 Goudey Ruth psa 1.5 get purchased with cash so people are still spending money.

I passed on a T206 raw Speaker and went back to take a better look and it was gone, but instead picked up a raw t200 Fatima NY Nationals!

[Frankish]

Originally Posted by Schlesinj

I attended today and specifically was looking for photos and not much available. Did not see any Japanese either, but was not specifically looking.

Thank you!

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Schlesinj

I attended today and specifically was looking for photos and not much available. Did not see any Japanese either, but was not specifically looking.

The auction houses did have their previews (photos) and they had a few to look at.

I also met Ryan H after overhearing him say his name to a dealer. *Hopefully that was not too creepy.

Also, spent some time with Scott and got an up close look at that PSA “1.5” 52 Mantle and the Rose Co Post cards really nice.

Jamie, not creepy at all. I am glad you said hi and nice to meet you.

Regarding Scott’s auction- Collector Connection is really coming along impressively. His prewar auction is shaping up to be special. There are several items, including some Rose Co PCs I expect to try hard to own.

Regarding the show- it was larger/more tables than historically, with almost every square foot being taken up with dealers. Major buzz and very crowded. Tons of stuff- vintage and new. Great vibe in the room. In my opinion, many dealers must have smoked crack before they put price stickers on their cards, bc lots of asking prices were, in my opinion, were stupid high. But if the dealers are selling stuff, god bless them. Many AHs were there, and it was great to see upcoming items and talk to Derek, Dean, Scott, etc. Lee, where were you?? Also, wouid love to see Al from Love of the Game there. Saw some friends, had a great time walking the floor. Bought nothing- I will wait for auction houses so I can buy at fair market prices!

[Leon]

Thanks for the updates on the show, guys. As mentioned, I hope to get out and set up again with Danny and Ted Z (hey guys) soon.....I had a blast last time I set up in Phili......some of my favorite guys in the hobby go there!

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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Leon

Thanks for the updates on the show, guys. As mentioned, I hope to get out and set up again with Danny and Ted Z (hey guys) soon.....I had a blast last time I set up in Phili......some of my favorite guys in the hobby go there!
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Hi Leon

Danny and I look forward to seeing you at the December Philly Show.

Saturday night we will treat you at the fancy Restaurant in the Valley Forge Hotel.

Take care, my good friend.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[Leon]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Leon

Danny and I look forward to seeing you at the December Philly Show.

Saturday night we will treat you at the fancy Restaurant in the Valley Forge Hotel.

Take care, my good friend.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Thanks Ted. I am going to try to make this happen.... Maybe I can catch another ride with Fred ....

[IndyDave]

Originally Posted by rugbymarine

7) Prices are high. I built lists of the cards that I was looking for in various grades, as well as my top buy price for each grade. When I do this, I compare recent sales, and I do take into account any differences in sales tax and shipping costs. Like the general market shows, I believe there should be a premium on cards with strong eye appeal and good centering. I saw exactly 1 card that was priced at my price level (and I bought it!). Everything was 20-50% high. There was a specific raw 52 Topps HOF that I was looking for in VG-EX range. Several BIN on eBay around $100 from reputable, high-quality feedback sellers. There were plenty of examples at the show, and the only card listed below $200 was an absolute beater with a missing corner (sticker $115). I know there is always room for negotiation, and I made offers on dozens cards. There were cards were the ask was double, so I didn't bother insulting the seller. I was always polite and sellers were as well, so no hard feelings. But don't go expecting bargains.

All in all, an amazing experience. I talked to many people that drove 3+ hours to be there and said it was worth it. If you're free, take the time to go.

Thanks for the report. Enjoyed reading it. Your comments above are in line with what I found at the National. I came back with just one of the 10 or so $70-$120 cards I was looking for because they were mostly priced at $200 or more. I found other stuff to buy. There's always something I need - just maybe not what my objective was.

[basesareempty]

Went on Saturday with my Son. Was looking to knock a few more 66 Topps high numbers off the list. Most of the dealers I usually check with said they got cleaned out on Friday night. Guess a lot of collectors are working on this set. Was able to find a nice Choo Choo Coleman and a Cardinals Rookie which anyone who has put this set together knows are really tough. Just mentally tough to pay North of $100 each for what are essentially “commons”. Dropped of some unopened boxes to be wrapped by BBCE. Picked up a few cards for my Baltimore Orioles collection and called it a day.