Best Starting 9 in a single set?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by egri

And have Gil Hodges or Earl Weaver as manager.

I was thinking for 1957 Topps:

P-Warren Spahn
C-Roy Campanella
1B-Gill Hodges
2B-Bill Mazeroski
SS-Luis Aparicio
3B-Brooks Robinson
OF-Ted Williams
OF-Roberto Clemente
OF-Hank Aaron

Off the top of my head, I can't think come up with the managers who appeared in the set. Plenty of good future managers though.

Clemente over Mays and Mantle? Uh, no. And Banks for sure over Aparicio.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Did we do 33 Goudey yet?
C Dickey
1B Gehrig
2B Hornsby
SS Vaughan
3B Traynor
OF Ruth, Ott, Waner
P Grove, Hubbell, Dean, maybe Pennock
DH Foxx

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Did we do 33 Goudey yet?
C Dickey
1B Gehrig
2B Hornsby
SS Vaughan
3B Traynor
OF Ruth, Ott, Waner
P Grove, Hubbell, Dean, maybe Pennock
DH Foxx

I think this is the winner although 1914-15 Cracker Jack is very strong.

[skelly423]

There are a lot of great answers on this list. I keep trying an early 50s list, but player rights issues always leave one or two players on the sidelines. That and the fact there is no hall of fame 3B until Eddie Mathews comes along. Nevertheless, here’s a shot with 1950 Bowman

P: Spahn/Feller
C: Berra (or Campy)
1B: Mize
2B: Robinson
SS: Appling
3B: Bob Elliott
OF: Williams
OF: Doby
OF: Snider
M: Stengel

[Peter_Spaeth]

Speaking of Mathews, 52 Topps

C Berra or Campanella
1B Mize
2b Robinson
SS Reese
3b Mathews
Of Mays, mantle, Snider
P Spahn, Feller, Roberts, Wynn
RP Wilhelm

[skelly423]

One more entrant from me, this from Old Judge.

C: Buck Ewing
1B: Cap Anton
2B: Bud McPhee
SS: Jack Glasscock
3B: Deacon White
OF: Hamilton
OF: Kelly
OF: Delahanty
P: Nichols, Radbourn, Keefe, Clarkson, Galvin
M: Harry Wright

I’ve got 5 starters, but would only need 2

[Mark]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Did we do 33 Goudey yet?
C Dickey
1B Gehrig
2B Hornsby
SS Vaughan
3B Traynor
OF Ruth, Ott, Waner
P Grove, Hubbell, Dean, maybe Pennock
DH Foxx

I thought of that, but had Cochrane at catcher. Grove starts--but I would never say no to Carl Hubbell. At any rate, I am sure that this squad could hold its own against any of them.

[egri]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Clemente over Mays and Mantle? Uh, no. And Banks for sure over Aparicio.

I don't know how I forgot about Banks. As for Mays and Mantle,

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[JollyElm]

It's a technicality, but 1973 and 1976 Topps with their 'All-Time All-Stars' and 'All-Time Leaders' subsets (added to the contemporary players) gives us all we'll ever need.

[rats60]

1958 Topps
P Koufax
C Berra
1B Musial
2B Mazeroski
3B Mathews
SS Banks
LF Williams
CF Mays
RF Clemente

Unfortunately, 1958 Topps is the only set in the 40s-50s where all the stars have cards.

[rats60]

1973 Topps would be another good one
P Seaver
C Bench
1B Aaron
2B Morgan
3B Schmidt
SS Aparicio
LF Yastrzemski
CF Mays
RF Clemente

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by rats60

1958 Topps
P Koufax
C Berra
1B Musial
2B Mazeroski
3B Mathews
SS Banks
LF Williams
CF Mays
RF Clemente

Unfortunately, 1958 Topps is the only set in the 40s-50s where all the stars have cards.

This is my favorite non modern group if you lose Clemente and put Aaron in RF.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

This is my favorite non modern group if you lose Clemente and put Aaron in RF.

Yeah, it's a subject Rats60 and I and others have been through many times, but personally I just cannot see Clemente over Aaron. I would probably take Nellie Fox over Mazeroski too.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Just for fun a current team
1b Pujols
2b Altuve
SS Tatis? if too soon, hmmm... Bogaerts?
3B Cabrera (cheating a bit)
OF Trout, Betts, Harper?
C Posey or Molina
P Verlander, Kershaw, Scherzer, Cole, Greinke

[brianp-beme]

I like the restrictions of a tiny set, such as the 10 card 1921 W551, to perform a little mental placement gymnastics:


P - Walter Johnson

C - Casey Stengel - No MLB games as Catcher, but managed, so almost the same

1B - Wally Pipp

2B - George Sisler - Played 2 games at 2B in 1917

3B - Frank Baker

SS - Dave Bancroft

LF - Ty Cobb - Played a total of 36 games in LF during career

CF - Tris Speaker

RF - Babe Ruth


Odd man out, but waiting in the wings to relieve Johnson when his arm turns to rubber - Relief pitcher Jesse Barnes - 110 games as non-starter


Brian

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yeah, it's a subject Rats60 and I and others have been through many times, but personally I just cannot see Clemente over Aaron. I would probably take Nellie Fox over Mazeroski too.

I have personally met Clemente and Aaron. And, Clemente is my guy.

Aaron at a BB Show signing session.

Clemente at Bradenton Field during Spring Training 1971. Our seats were near the RF foul pole. Every time Roberto
came out to his field position, he would devote some time talking with us. What a gracious and friendly guy he was.

GOD Bless his soul.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by tedzan

I have personally met Clemente and Aaron. And, Clemente is my guy.

Aaron at a BB Show signing session.

Clemente at Bradenton Field during Spring Training 1971. Our seats were near the RF foul pole. Every time Roberto
came out to his field position, he would devote some time talking with us. What a gracious and friendly guy he was.

GOD Bless his soul.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Yes, and he was a better right fielder than Aaron too by some margin, but overall, it's not even close. E.g. 143 vs. 94 WAR. And yes, I know Clemente had a couple of end of career seasons left in him where he would have added a little.