What's up with these t206 sold auction prices ???

[nineunder71]

The Devlin nor the Ames surprised me, very tough Print Group 1 OMs

However, the common Old Mills not from Print Group 1 seemed to go too High imo. Big difference in scarcity within this sub-set for those whom do the research.

The Walsh Old Mill had a desirable “Print Mark” on the front, which advanced collectors would know made that card more desirable than a typical OM Walsh. I felt that card could have gone much higher. Someone got a very Scarce, although lower grade, tough off-back HOFer with that one, Nice Pull there

And, the strong prices for the Cycles, Well I love it.

I landed this one, an upgrade from my current Raw1. Current Combined Pop: 7, with 2 - 5’s, however it appears the same 5 was crossed over, therefore, I’m hoping this guy grades 3.5+. If so, he will be the second highest graded Malarkey Cycle 350 of only 8 graded. Fingers crossed

Cheers to All

[packs]

Pop report buying seems dangerous. When no one wants to complete the Old Mill set, won't that card sell for almost nothing?

[53toppscollector]

Originally Posted by packs

Pop report buying seems dangerous. When no one wants to complete the Old Mill set, won't that card sell for almost nothing?

This...doesn't seem like a possible problem, honestly. The pop counts are so low, and T206's are so popular, that there never seems likely to be an oversaturation of the market.

Back collecting seems to have grown in popularity pretty substantially in recent years, I doubt people are going to suddenly lose interest in it.

[packs]

The Registry is relatively new. I don't think you'd even know pop reports without it so assuming people lose their interest in the registry, what drives pop report buying?

Rare backs and finding cards that are rarely seen with certain backs are totally different animals. Lenox is generally rare and yes, generally collected. But a common with an Old Mill back isn't. Unless the registry is involved, I guess. Don't think it's apples to apples or a reason why one can't live without the other, when for most of the hobby's history there was no registry or pop count.

[nineunder71]

Well, I disagree.

I care BIG TIME about the population reports.

This hobby is moving because the advent of the population reports.

Technology has given us, not only a platform to trade on(actually multiple), but a source of data analytics. Real Data is now available. Data never known until given to us since the pop reports were A. Created, and B. Made public.

Data is now what is driving the move.

Your last statement kinda sums up your lack of understanding...... It’s not the prior century anymore, times have changed. You will either move forward or be left behind. Best of Luck

Originally Posted by packs

The Registry is relatively new. I don't think you'd even know pop reports without it so assuming people lose their interest in the registry, what drives pop report buying?

Rare backs and finding cards that are rarely seen with certain backs are totally different animals. Lenox is generally rare and yes, generally collected. But a common with an Old Mill back isn't. Unless the registry is involved, I guess. Don't think it's apples to apples or a reason why one can't live without the other, when for most of the hobby's history there was no registry or pop count.

[packs]

Why would I need to move forward if the registry doesn't impact my collecting? My question was whether or not collecting by pop count will continue or die off. I asked the question because pop counts have inflated the prices for these cards.

The question is of interest to me because pop count buying is speculative at best. The pop count can't factor in cards that aren't graded. So the pop count seems to be an unofficial barometer. These cards aren't collected the same way modern is, where you more or less have to grade your cards for them to retain value. If you read the board and have been around the block for a while, you know that a lot of people who collect pre-war either don't grade their cards or pop their cards out after purchasing.

[nineunder71]

Well, lets look at what we now know today (Again, due to the pop reports!)

We will take my Malarkey card above to use as an example:

Currently: combined population reports suggest the following:

Piedmont 350s: pop = 308
Sovereign 350s: pop = 56
Cycle 350s: pop = 7


So....... You’re saying “Speculative at Best” ????

While an unofficial barometer it might be,

IT IS FAR SUPERIOR TO “SPECULATIVE AT BEST”, this I promise