Knickerbocker Photo (Update)

[ThomasL]

My first look I thought most of the suggested IDs were stretches that could be put in a "maybe" category at best (and that was just going off the supplied comps and not looking for more/better comps)...and some wishful stretches of what I call The Billy the Kid effect or maybe better for here The Joe Jackson effect (which I have been guilty of)

but the reality of it is the first and most important ID here is the date of the item in question which prewarsports, an expert, very concisely made. He knows what he's talking about.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by ThomasL

but the reality of it is the first and most important ID here is the date of the item in question which prewarsports, an expert, very concisely made. He knows what he's talking about.

Except for the fact that he clearly does not as proven multiple times throughout this thread already. Why do people keep pretending like this never happened? How many times do we have to go over this? It has been proven several times already from multiple photos that the stereoviews of this type did in fact exist in the late 1850s and 1860s. Multiple people have posted screen shots of their stereoviews from those years in this very thread, despite the "expert" claiming it's not possible.

It's also been proven, that his stereoview is NOT gray, and that it is a cream/beige color. Both through his color palette card adjacent to the photo of the actual stereoview and through my screenshots of how those colors render through an extremely high-definition color balanced retina display screen.

At what point do you guys consider the actual evidence provided in this thread?

[JollyElm]

16. Koquak (also Fauxtographer or Failface)
After someone starts a “Does anyone know who this player is??” thread, this person’s guess isn’t anywhere even remotely close to having a resemblance to the person being asked about, as if he just picked a random name out of the Baseball Almanac and posted it.

See also: Clueless Joe - a person who’s convinced any player pictured in an old B/W photograph is Joe Jackson.

[SteveS]

ThomasL, Snowman summed up perfectly what I would say in response. I would add that I wish there were other comps; it would make this whole thing a lot easier. Unfortunately, half these guys have only one known photo, and for the ones that have one or two others, most of them are not from the same era.

JollyElm, look closer. It's not as big a Gamble as you think (see what I did there?). Seriously, look at other pictures I posted, such as the comparison to Adams as an older man. Tell me where you see glaring differences. Look at the overlays I posted of Adams and Birney. They are perfect matches. Not close matches; perfect matches. Both photos fit over each other with every single facial feature lining up exactly. I can understand someone saying, "Yeah I can see resemblances, but here are specific differences I spot which make me think it's not them." But so far, not one single person has pointed to a specific facial feature in one that can't be seen in the other. Also notable are the people who say it's not them without providing anything else except for some sick need to throw in an insult. I can speculate what's going on there, but I'll leave it to other readers of this thread to judge their behavior and contribution to the discussion.