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Old 08-27-2021, 01:31 PM
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Although there are a lot of anonymous A holes on Blowout, the Boda team has done a very good job and a big service to our hobby. If anyone denies that they are ignorant or stupid, pick one.

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To be clear, BODA has confirmed what many of us already knew, and has perhaps shown the scope was even greater than we thought, but the alterations and the involvement of certain people is far from new.
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Old 08-27-2021, 02:33 PM
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Fixed it for you.
Lol. Yes. They probably do that daily, I would imagine.


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To be clear, BODA has confirmed what many of us already knew, and has perhaps shown the scope was even greater than we thought, but the alterations and the involvement of certain people is far from new.
I agree. They've definitely blown the lid on how widespread this issue is.
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I’ve bid 10 or more times in plenty of auctions and on ebay. Why? Could be anything from I was bored, to I didn’t want to pay $2 more than the guy below me, to I wanted to see if the top bidder set an aggressive high bid, to I had too much wine to drink and it was 2 am and it was pointless fun. Can’t always tell why anyone is doing anything.

I wise man said to me a long time ago forget about deciphering someone else’s motivations. You are almost always just guessing based on your preexisting biases.
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There's no shortage of fake buy-it-now sales on ebay.
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Old 08-28-2021, 08:52 AM
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eBay could consider calling out known shill bidders.
If shiller bids it shows *bidder has history of shill bidding.
Any new accounts they create tag would follow.
A fair buyer beware alert from eBay.

Shill bidders and pwcc should face long term suspension from eBay. Criminals only stop behavior when it is no longer tolerated. They rarely change behavior on their own.
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Old 08-28-2021, 12:23 PM
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eBay could consider calling out known shill bidders.
If shiller bids it shows *bidder has history of shill bidding.
Any new accounts they create tag would follow.
A fair buyer beware alert from eBay.

Shill bidders and pwcc should face long term suspension from eBay. Criminals only stop behavior when it is no longer tolerated. They rarely change behavior on their own.
Shill bidding is not okay. There is my disclaimer.

I know this is unpopular to say, but when I see an item on ebay, I decide what I will pay for it, and that is my limit. Whether I'm bidding against someone who, in their heart, wants to win it, or someone who doesn't, really makes not much difference. Of course I don't want a shiller bidding me up, but I'm not going to let him push me past my self imposed limit.

Now, if someone shilled me up to my max, placing a bid above mine, then cancelling that bid, then I would complain to ebay and not pay for the item on principle. That is something different than shill bidding.

I haven't seen anyone discuss the risk to the shill bidder. Don't some of these guys win stuff frequently enough to make it too risky for them? I mean, I hope that happens because it might tend to discourage the practice.
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